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Old 07-12-2012, 11:56 AM   #341 (permalink)
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Return yards give me nightmares.

I just don't see the point of making Devone Bess not suck. Plus, and this is the real reason I don't care for it, it's just an even more random element added to the game. I ask you the same question...Why?
- It allows for a more stable WW.
- Flex will be complaining by week 2 that his receivers all suck. This might mean we don't have to listen to it.
- It's a part of the offense.
- When you draft a quality receiver that also returns kicks you should be rewarded for it.
- Gives you something else to think about on draft day.
- It's fun.
- Why not?

The entire game is random. Receivers will go off for 21 points one week and 2 the next. If anything, return yards are less random than receivers normal scores.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #342 (permalink)
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I know the game is random. That's why I don't see why adding another random element makes it better. I don't have the stats to back this, nor will I look them up, but I'm pretty sure after watching football for years, big returns are rare, so yeah, they're pretty random. Seems like the most stable thing is PPR in this entire game; if the word stable can be applied to anything. PPR is what makes things less random, though it'll still be really random.

Returns are special teams, neither offense, nor defense. Why not stick return yards to the defense/ST?

I do like that WW point though. That's the only reason I would do return yards or PPR. It makes the player pool deeper. I don't care that Ray Rice is made better; he's gonna kick ass regardless. I care that crap like Michael Crabtree will now give you something decent.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:20 PM   #343 (permalink)
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Return Yards = Darren Sproles 1st Rd Pick
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Or he could give you something decent.

My point was return yards count towards a teams total yards so indirectly, positive yards are offense. There's guys that are really good at it. I don't see the problem in rewarding the guy that has drafted a really good return man.

Receivers points fluctuate immensely where as anyone that returns kicks should be good for 6 points a week and RARELY they'll go off for a big score when they return a kick. Rare doesn't really make it random.

It seems to me this is a stat you'll love when you got the guy who had a good return day and a stat you'll hate when your opponent does. It should balance itself out.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:38 PM   #345 (permalink)
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I support return yards and PPR anything for higher point shootouts.
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Rare does make it random. Come on. Return yards are not offense, but it's not even related to the issue since that's real football talk.

How much would return yards be worth? I don't think they should be worth the same as receiving and rushing.

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Old 07-12-2012, 12:49 PM   #347 (permalink)
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I would say sporadic makes things random. Rare is the opposite of almost always and you wouldn't say almost always is random and that's just the opposite end of the spectrum.

Vincent Jackson = random.
Antonio Brown was anything but random last year.
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lol now we're into semantics on rare. Rare is sporadic pretty much in this context.

How much would return yards be worth?


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Shut up, JM. Nothing you can say will help your case of return yards.
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Fuck return yards, dude. Gay as fuck.
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