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Nothing is more frustrating than when a main event drags down a well-worked card.

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#1 · (Edited)
Seriously...

Neville vs. Barrett was a good showcase to put over the new high-flying highlight reel.

Ambrose vs. Harper was funny and hardcore throughout the night. (Also the two have just plain amazing chemistry)

Ziggler vs. Sheamus was a very well-worked match, with lots of stiff and technical wrestling. Chemistry was always great and I've wanted a match between these two for a while. The ending was a bit of a cop-out but it honestly was sensible writing for once, that Sheamus would be like "lol I'm not gonna go through with it. I'm heel"


The Tag Team Title Match....oh man, match of the night and it was just oh so beautiful. Workhorsemania all throughout the match. All four men in the match were just talent. Plain, talent. It had the biggest pops of the entire show and with of course Cesaro and Kidd being amazing workers, crap on New Day all you want but Big E and Kofi CAN hold their own. :banderas

The Cena vs. Rusev match was typical lol Cena wins, but it was passable. Workrate wasn't the problem really, although the feud may be starting to run its course.

The Divas match wasn't all that great, but (and I love the divas division by the way more than the average smark :) ) considering the poor booking going in, they worked as good as they could have (with as little chemistry as they do) with the situation at hand of poor babyface and heel management. Naomi is always athletic and Nikki actually attempted technical prowess without Paige holding her hand. Tense because a title change almost happened.

Roman Reigns vs. Big Show, the match that everyone said was going to suck, delivered...actually pretty well. I mean they pulled out a lot of great spots (sans the slightly dumb ending where Big Show kneels back down to be buried by a table) and put on...well something that actually could have main evented Fast Lane (like it was originally going to). The crowd behaved and gave appropriate face/heel reactions. It actually made me regret that this match isn't the title picture over the main event (not that the feud is great, don't get me wrong here, it's not a good feud but we'll get to the main event in a second to compare..) Any match that has people chanting "holy shit" and popping over and over again HAS to be doing something right.

So with all of that decent work ethic and stringing together a night full of entertaining, stiff, workhorsing, spotmania matches, you get to top it off with an amazing, well-deserved....


filler cage match that could main event the 2nd Raw of the a month....at best. The match was just not PPV-worthy. It doesn't even feel like it belongs in the Reality Era it felt like a match from the Universe Era. The point of the Reality Era is to take the status quo and prove all of the whining and crying smarks wrong by seeming like you're going the status quo route and then delivering in spades at the pay per view. Why, WHY on earth did this match have to tank the rest of the card? Why? I mean, I didn't lose faith in the booking as a whole for the card, but it just feels like it doesn't belong here. It felt like WWE went backwards by five years (then again, wasn't Orton main eventing wwe ppvs as a babyface in 2010 to begin with which was part of the reason why the company was a big NO NO NO back then?) with going through motions workrate. It's a generically built match, where the wrestlers went through the motions of your typical cage match and it's a cocktease that Rollins is playing a cowardly heel who won't do that oh-so wanted 450 splash off the top of the cage we all wish to see. Orton's legacy also isn't taken seriously as a face. The Kane interference didn't do much for me. I didn't care about Orton vs. Seth as the main event of a ppv from the start (and I can easily be swayed by a well worked match which is what the reigns vs. show match did for me as did the Divas match with a not so bad match) but when you give me exactly what I expect and give me no incline in emotion, it's boring.

And by the way just for the record, my feelings on the match while watching, my feelings didn't increase, decrease, or anything, nothing made me bat an eye. My heartrate stayed flatlined and that's pretty bad considering how much I don't want Orton to be champion over Rollins (which is the problem of having Orton being a face when he's picking a fight with a ROH internet darling?), so it's pretty bad that it didn't even elict me to smark out at all. It put a well-behaving but loud crowd to sleep to your typical "no reaction to Randy Orton" sound effect.

Why did the main event have to be such a generic filler match. Why? I just feel bad for the rest of the workers who busted their ass tonight who may not get credit for it because of the lousy output. Bless their hearts. Shame on the generic main event.
 
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#5 ·
I think the WWE managed their 3 hours quite poorly tonight. Don't get me wrong I thought the PPV was a decent show, but a couple matches, the ME included, got slow and dragged b/c they were, honestly, booked to be to long.

I think the WWE really missed out on not having pre-recorded segments of Ambrose/Harper fighting in the streets of Chicago which would have filled the time much better
 
#22 ·
I think the WWE managed their 3 hours quite poorly tonight. Don't get me wrong I thought the PPV was a decent show, but a could matches, the ME included, got slow and dragged b/c they were honestly booked to be to long.

I think the WWE really missed out on not having pre-recorded segments of Ambrose/Harper fighting in the streets of Chicago which would have filled the time much better
:clap Great idea! It would have been cool. If this show were a brass ring. WWE dropped it big time.
 
#12 ·
True. Don't forget NJPW. :D
 
#3 ·
Well, what would you have done differently OP?

Different match type for the main event? Another main event altogether?
 
#9 · (Edited)
Outside of possibly giving the main event match to Reigns vs. Big Show (or moving the WWE title picture to be in that match), if we have to stick with the entire plan of Extreme Rules 2015, I guess one way to fix it would have been a falls count anywhere match so that both men weren't limited and could show off technical skill (at least on Rollins side) and extreme wrestling or well to be fair, it could have been what the ppv staple is known for, AN EXTREME RULES MATCH, yeah actually why NOT an Extreme Rules match like we've had every year at EXTREME RULES? Could have had many false finishes and interferences and Kane changing his mind several times (not in a lazy fashion too, like one off or anything).

Or if had to stay a cage match, it should have kept up with the demand of the rest of the card, be high octane with Rollins doing a move off the top of the cage (I would say into an RKO but it'd be banned in this case which is dumb in itself since it limits his moveset), be full of spots, have one of J&J climb on top of the cage and get RKO'd, have some spots where Orton goes for an RKO but stops when he realizes it's banned. Have Orton and Rollins chain wrestle like mad. (in similar fashion to their wrestlemania 31 match).

It's the Reality Era and much to contrary belief, The Reality Era has some of the best work ethics ever (perhaps I also watch too much NXT and have held my standards high in regards to wwe ppv work ethic as well in the past since the beginning of the reality era) and this is the first time since the reality era begun where I saw a completely bland (with ZERO shock spots that are exclusive to a PPV) match that is usually on a Raw, main event a ppv.
 
#28 ·
:eek:kay2

You forget about their Wrestlemania match already? That "boring" guy in the ring has had absolute classics in an outstanding 12 year career with WWE, but I guess he's an awful worker since he wasn't an indy star like Rollins fpalm
 
#14 ·
PG cage matches are never that good. And Orton's stipulation makes him look stupid. He can pick any stipulation and he picks one that thinks will keep the authority out as if they can't just open the door or climb the cage. Kayfabe he would have chose hell in the cell where there is a roof and the doors are locked.
 
#15 ·
Their WM match was leagues better. I've said it in my mind plenty before that cage match is my least favorite stipulation. I can't remember the last time I genuinely enjoyed a cage match. I would have been happy to see their feud end at WM but if they were going to continue it make it HIAC, street fight, or ladder match instead. Ladder matches never get boring. Another thing that drug the match down was the inevitable J&J/Kane interference. I don't get the point of the cage stip being brought up to keep Authority out when they're going to interfere regardless, just like the Wyatts with Cena last year. The cage match is pointless.

Why don't they make it that the only way you can win a cage match is to climb out? I don't like that a guy has four or five options to win the match. It completely renders it pointless, and it felt very underwhelming when Rollins just simply squirmed out the cage door. But agree with OP. Every other match was AWESOME but the cage main event was quite underwhelming. Orton/Rollins WM was way better IMO.
 
#18 ·
Why don't they make it that the only way you can win a cage match is to climb out? I don't like that a guy has four or five options to win the match. It completely renders it pointless, and it felt very underwhelming when Rollins just simply squirmed out the cage door. But agree with OP. Every other match was AWESOME but the cage main event was quite underwhelming. Orton/Rollins WM was way better IMO.
I hate the cage door. I know it's a heel move to get out of the door but damn does it ever remind a crowd that wrestling is fake. I'm fine with it just being pinfall or submission. The cage is meant to keep a guy from escaping from his opponent it shouldn't just be an obstacle course.
 
#16 ·
To be fair, it's hard to put on good work in an overbooked cage match. They should just abandon the concept. Like anyone is supposed to believe Orton or Rollins could not have left that cage in 2 seconds whenever they wanted to. Or believe that because it's a cage that at least 2 more people won't be in the ring at the end of the match nullifying the whole point of the match. Those two had one of the better contests at WM and WWE decided the followup to it should be a match where both performers are basically handcuffed in their options. Sweet logic, bro.
 
#17 ·
Hate gimmicky matches like cages etc, it only works when you need to keep two guys close to one another, Eg if rollins is being a shit and counting himself out then they need a reason to keep them inside a ring
 
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