I could see Kane in the Hall of Fame... and just because he doesnt have 16 world title reigns doesnt mean hes unworthy. No one is saying that hes as great of a performer as HBK, Ric Flair, Hogan ect... look at half the guys in the HOF and none of them even come close to them. If they only let guys like Flair in then the Hall of Fame would have less than 10 guys in it
I'm 15 but I know a lot more about wrestling than you might think so don't judge me on my age.
Kane was a key role in one of the most famous feuds of the Attitude Era (Undertaker/Kane) but that role could have been played by any generic big man wrestler. All he had to do was wear a mask and hang out with Paul Bearer, 'Taker was the star and driving force behind that feud. And that is one feud which if you think about it, was a little silly at times, that's not enough for him to be inducted into the HOF.
Here you go, if Kane's career continued at the intensity and quality that it did in the Attitude Era, I would say he should be welcomed into the HOF. But from 2002 onward, he has been stale and repeptive, jobbed out to sucky wrestlers over and over again. It has diminished his cred and it would be an insult to put him in a group of wrestlers including Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan when from 02-08, Kane was been average at best.
The fact that your 15 means you didn't see that feud live most likely. Sorry but I don't take 15 year old fans seriously. You know how long has been since that feud? You obviously weren't old enough to watch the Attitude Era live. So obviously you have relied on internet crap and YouTube to watch Attitude Era moments. If you don't know everything and haven't experience it then you shouldn't talk. You know about wrestling more than I do? Wow! You really think to high of yourself for a 15 year old. In 2000, you were about 7 years old IMO that makes you super young when the Attitude Era started.
The fact that my age makes a difference to you is totally weak. I only started watching around 2000/01 but I've been watching stuff on Youtube and tapes from relatives for years. To judge me because I'm 15 is lame. I've done my research, I know what happened, I've seen what happened and your just using my age as a way of ducking out of the original argument despite me giving you points which you've ignored. I never said I knew more about wrestling than you, I just expected you to make a big deal out of my age so informed you that I know more than you think. I never said I'm a super fan or anything, far from it but just because I'm 15 doesn't mean I don't know my stuff.
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Have you watched everything? I don't think so. The point is your saying Kane isn't Hall of Fame worthy. Kane is not at the level of a Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, The Rock, Dusty Rhodes or Stone Cold but you seem to be burying him by saying that his carrer isn't Hall of Fame worthy. Tapes and YouTube don't have everything. If you would have watched live, you would have seem how much of a key player Kane was for wrestling during the Attitude Era. Does Kane jobs today? Yes he does and is sad but the guy is just unselfish is as simple as that. Kane puts Big Daddy V over to put him over with the crowd. Same goes with Mark Henry. Just like when he jobbed to Morrison a few weeks back. He's putting people over. Kane is still pretty popular in WWE and whoever beats him gets some decent attention. At least he isn't like the other top wrestlers that hug their spot and don't want to let go. I know it wasn't a good thing to judge you becuase of your age and if you have watched the whole Attitude Era on YouTube or on tapes that's hard to believe.
Firstly, has anyone watched everything? I doubt that and you don't need to have watched everything to make an opinion on one wrestler. I'm not burying Kane, WWE did that for me. Judging from how the WWE have treated Kane from 02-08, he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. They killed his cred man. Even if I haven't seen the Attitude Era, I've still seen him get his ass kicked in WWE for ages which is enough for me to say no. Dude, just because he puts people over doesn't make him worthy of a HOF slot. Val Venis has put over tons of guys, way more than Kane ever will so by your logic, he should be inducted into the HOF for being unselfish. Putting people over is a good thing and I respect Kane for it but it doesn't make him a HOFer. The WWE HOF has plenty of people who's inductions could have waited and I feel it's too big but the majority of them are head and shoulders above Kane. They've done more for wrestling than him and have been bigger stars than him. But like I said, if Kane had continued being booked as he was in the late 90s, I can picture him being in it.
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Kane puts people over becuase unlike other he admits he's not in his prime anymore. And I never said he should go into the Hall of Fame just becuase he puts people over. When did I say that? Putting people over is something that old guys do eventually in their carrers. Just becuase he puts people over you should forget about what he did in the past? That's a silly arguement. If the other top guys were like Kane, we would have more main eventers today.
Kane never reached the top. He was on the brink of the top but then somehow screwed it up and now he's jobbing to Big Daddy V. Shawn Michaels now puts plenty of guys over, Randy Orton to Jeff Hardy to Ken Kennedy to Batista, and he's still HOF worthy because he's acheived all there is to acheive in wrestling. Kane had a joke of a World Title reign which made him look weak and then just won tag and mid card belts. X-Pac won tag and mid card belts, should he be in the HOF? Should Ken Shamrock? One of your points was that as Kane puts people over, he deserves a spot in the HOF based on that and his past success. Well I'm sorry but 97-01 of quality performances and then 02-08 of jobbing and looking weak is not HOF standard stuff.
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Wow! Kane has done nothing but job since 2002? In 2002, Kane won the World Tag Team Title and the next week he won the IC Title. A bad 2002 I guess. Let's not forget how he won a TLC match without a partner. Pretty crappy push indeed.
Let's take a look at 2003. He won the Tag Team Titles with RVD and eventually was unmasked. His path of destruction when he was unmasked was incredible. His feud with Shane was one of the best of the year if not the best. The Last Man Standing Match and Ambulance match were awesome. Pretty crappy year indeed. He even destroyed Austin, set JR on fire, was inside a crashing limo and survived and beat the crap out of a nurse and a doctor in the hospital.
2004 was pretty much a up and down year for him. Not to mention he left to film a movie.
In 2005, he competed in the first ever Money in the Bank match. Eventually he had a fued with Edge that until this day is very underrated. Both guys had 3 pretty good matches against each other. I believe Kane then took some time off and then came back which lead to Kane winning the World Tag Team Titles. Big Show and him were pushed as an unbeatable tag team and they even defended the belts on a constant basis. They were one of the most legit Tag Champs WWE had in a while.
In 2006 that's when things really slowed down for him. The only thing worth mentioning was his sucessfull tag title defense at Wrestlemania. He then took time off yet again to promote See No Evil in Europe and after he returned for a match with Big Show under Extreme Rules on ECW and then went into a feud with Umaga which he ended up on Smackdown. After that Kane started putting guys like MVP, Kennedy, Mark Henry and the new character Big Daddy V over. What's wrong with that?
kane is so stale
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