datboiwes

I am so damn sick of people bringing up ROH when discussing CM Punk.

His work in ROH means absolutely nothing now. All that matters is how impressive he is in WWE. Which isn't very TBH.

CM_Jobber

^^^^^^^^^Leave it out mate^^^^^^^^^
He's had some quality matches. And i think it does matter about his ROH matches,as the guy should just be able to wrestle his natural way,and totally blow the roof off the arenas like we know he can

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Damien_Draiman™

Yea, and it's hard to have quality matches when you only have 5-10 minutes on a regular basis and the quality of opponent isn't that good.

I mean, anyone can have quality matches with the Miz, Chuck Palumbo and guys like that right?

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datboiwes

His ROH stuff really doesn't matter.

You know just as well as I do that he's not going to be able to wrestle in WWE the way he did in ROH, nor will you see the so-called brillant mic work in WWE that he did in ROH, so all of you sorry, no life having Punk dick suckers need to get over it.

I mean get over it NOW.

That's bullshit to me too. If he was as good as everyone says he is, no matter how bad the guy is he's working w/, he should be able to have a decent match at least.

For example, Matt Hardy pulled a 2 1/2 - 3 star match out of CHRIS MASTERS....who is worse in the ring than both men you just mentioned.

Damien_Draiman™

First off what 3 star has masters ever had? Really? He's never had a 2 star match IMO, then again I'm a very critical rater of matches myself.

And seriously, their's only been 2 guys in wrestling that could ever make any guy they were wrestling look good. Only two:

Ric Flair and Bret Hart. Everyone else needed someone halfway decent to have a good match.

Also I feel Punk has improved Vastly since he came to WWE. He's had to adjust to wrestling 5-10 minutes compared to the at least 35 minute matches he'd have in ROH and FIP.

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Jonez

Nah. You'd be pretty hard pressed to get even a watchable match out of Big Daddy V, who of which Punk has faced on numerous occasions. You have to realise that if you think Punk is unimpressive in the WWE, he can't be 100% at fault for it.

He hasn't been amazing but he's been solid, proven when he has a capable wrestler on the other side of the ring. And even when there isn't he can pull of a decent match. He's wrestled Jericho a few times on RAW this year and I'm pretty sure if they were given 15 mins, they'd work a potentially **** or even higher match.

datboiwes

I'll agree in saying that Punk has been solid, but there is nothing, and I mean nothing about Punk (and I'm including his ROH stuff, I wasn't that impressed) that says that he could be face of the WWE, a la HHH or John Cena. He strikes me as somewhat of a Chris Jericho....someone who could one day get a respect run, but ultimately, will always be an upper midcarder.

Red Jon

I'm hoping for any one of 3,4 and 5. He's losing his edge so to speak.

rcwilson17

And how do you know are you a person who can read the future? Did anyone think that Shawn Michaels from the midnight rockers who was too small, too this, too that would end up becoming one of th ebest in ring performers of our time? Did anyone ever think that Hunter Hearst Hemsley would end up becoming a 12 time world champion? And did anyone ever think that a guy who looked like a jobber in Randy Orton he debuted would end up being a multi time champ, and one of the top heels in the company. Fact is no one knows how anybody will turn up because WWE can mold anybody they want into a star. If WWE could book a 5'8 under 200 pound guy in Rey Mysterio into a world champion no matter how bad it was booked then anything can happen. So that shit about oh Punk is only gonna be an uppermid carder is b.s because so far in his short WWE career he has had a better run than most would. So just sit back and wait to see what happens before being so negetive.

And about Punk in his in ring work fact is there is no way with what WWE gives him he can live up to his ROH hype. You can put on classic matches in 5-8 even 10 minutes compared to when he would get 15-30 minutes in ROH. He's making the best out of what he is given like anyone else would. Now if you don't like Punk period ROH or WWE thats fine everyone has their own taste but don't go bash people who do like the guy. And before you said you didn't and I quote

"so all of you sorry, no life having Punk dick suckers need to get over it. I mean get over it NOW."

Which really isn't needed because fact is if you expect people to respect the fact that you don't like Punk you at least have to respect the fact that people do like the guy.

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datboiwes

I don't dislike Punk. He's alright, I just think he gets FAR more credit than he deserves. I mean, had it been up to the majority of the people of this board, he would've gotten the Brock Lesnar push the minute he debuted. Fact is, he's just not that good to warrant that kinda push, and he's nowhere near ready to be at the main event level yet.

You're right, he maybe down the line, but he's not right now.

Some Punk marks can't even understand that.