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**Epididymis** · 05-15-2008, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DKAJC

I'm happy that he loses sometimes because it means that he may not become a Superman.

Just because when Cena wins his matches he looks like superman doesn't mean other people do. You know, it is possible to win a match without looking like a superman.

peowulf · 05-15-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by starttheinfeKKtion

Honestly, I think they are waiting until the late fall or winter for him to cash in it or they are going to have Jeff win in from him. I don't think it's that big of a deal really.

Punk in WWE reminds me soooooo much of Rob Van Dam.

In ECW, RVD was great and had alot more of a risk-taking and reckless wrestling style.
He got to talk all the time about 4:20 and shit like "I never said I was the showstopper, I'm the whole fucking show". Then he came to WWE, and He never got to say anything except like "Dude" and Whatever" and his matches were always weird to me like he had a hard time adjusting to the WWE Style.

I think CM Punk is the exact same way. In ROH, He was great on the mic and talked all the time. Now all he gets to say is "I'm straightedge" and his matches are strange like he isn't adjusting very good to the WWE Style either.

Please don't compare RVD to CM Punk. RVD has had great matches in the WWE, with Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit to name a few. Punk has done next to nothing yet. He beat Morrison for the ECW title because John got suspended and he won the Money in the Bank because Harry was suspended. And he can't capitalize on those lucky breaks because quite frankly, he's far from impressive in the ring. Maybe he'll be better with time, who knows. But right now, he doesn't deserve a World Title Shot.

MasahitoKakihara · 05-15-2008, 01:10 PM

He is VERY impressive in the ring!

**Dirk Pepper** · 05-15-2008, 01:16 PM

I agree with Punk's push being slow. I just hope WWE know what they are doing.

DKAJC · 05-15-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Epididymis

Just because when Cena wins his matches he looks like superman doesn't mean other people do. You know, it is possible to win a match without looking like a superman.

Being a Superman doesn't entail no-selling and miraculous comebacks. It means that he doesn't win every match, because that's very unrealistic and dull. Yes, and that's coming from a Punk mark. I sometimes enjoy seeing him lose, because there are some guys on the roster that he shouldn't be beating atm.

DKAJC · 05-15-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Epididymis

Just because when Cena wins his matches he looks like superman doesn't mean other people do. You know, it is possible to win a match without looking like a superman.

Being a Superman doesn't entail no-selling and miraculous comebacks. It means that he doesn't win every match, because that's very unrealistic and dull. Yes, and that's coming from a Punk mark. I sometimes enjoy seeing him lose, because there are some guys on the roster that he shouldn't be beating atm.

**starttheinfeKKtion** · 05-15-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by peowulf

Please don't compare RVD to CM Punk. RVD has had great matches in the WWE, with Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit to name a few. Punk has done next to nothing yet. He beat Morrison for the ECW title because John got suspended and he won the Money in the Bank because Harry was suspended. And he can't capitalize on those lucky breaks because quite frankly, he's far from impressive in the ring. Maybe he'll be better with time, who knows. But right now, he doesn't deserve a World Title Shot.

I'm not saying RVD didn't have good matches..I just said most of his matches cam off as strange to me like he never fully adjusted to the WWE Style of wrestling.

I think Punk is having a hard time adjusting to the WWE style as well.

and you clearly haven't seen Punk's work in ROH if you think he is not impressive.

**Epididymis** · 05-15-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DKAJC

Being a Superman doesn't entail no-selling and miraculous comebacks. It means that he doesn't win every match, because that's very unrealistic and dull. Yes, and that's coming from a Punk mark. I sometimes enjoy seeing him lose, because there are some guys on the roster that he shouldn't be beating atm.

You enjoy seeing him lose, but do you enjoy seeing him lose more than he's winning? And CM Punk should be beating guys like Regal, and Palumbo rather than them beating him.

**CERB3RUS** · 05-16-2008, 12:17 AM

I couldn't believe my eyes when Miz beat him cleanly. I'm confused... is Punk coming off drug suspension or Jeff? I could really care less what happens to the MITB briefcase, I think the whole MITB angle is completely overrated anyways, but I couldn't imagine what kind of Bill Belichick message WWE would send if Punk drops that briefcase to Hardy. Drug-Free superstar's push derailed by a cheater.

**-TheEnigma-** · 05-16-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cerberUS_222

I couldn't believe my eyes when Miz beat him cleanly. I'm confused... is Punk coming off drug suspension or Jeff? I could really care less what happens to the MITB briefcase, I think the whole MITB angle is completely overrated anyways, but I couldn't imagine what kind of Bill Belichick message WWE would send if Punk drops that briefcase to Hardy. Drug-Free superstar's push derailed by a cheater.

The message of we like to make lots of money?

Oh and explain to me how taking drugs makes you a cheater in a fake sport.

Edit: What i find laughable about you is that you seem to have a hatred of Jeff Hardy because of drugs, yet judging by what you put as your location a place in GTA IV, a game which revels in glorifying drugs, if your so against drug use then surely you wouldnt be playing a game which is full of it, man i hate hypocritical people with double standards.

By the way GTA IV awesome game.