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kennedy=god · 05-12-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownieDude

Ehrm their matches were given less than 5 minutes and were ok for what they were. Shelton is the most underrated werestler on the roster in my opinion

More like the most overrated wrestler in the WWE. He's good at what he does, but as an actual proffesional wrestler, he's ridiculously overrated. I assume you're basing it on how much the WWE pushes them, so if that is the case, you think Benjamin is better then Noble? If so, then LMFAO. BTW, the match was indeed 5 minutes, and neither of them seemed to know what to do when they were in the ring, until they got to show there "ATHLETIC ABILITY" (And an athletic ability makes you a good wrestler, right?).

ivesaidway2much · 05-12-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kennedy=god

More like the most overrated wrestler in the WWE. He's good at what he does, but as an actual proffesional wrestler, he's ridiculously overrated. I assume you're basing it on how much the WWE pushes them, so if that is the case, you think Benjamin is better then Noble? If so, then LMFAO. BTW, the match was indeed 5 minutes, and neither of them seemed to know what to do when they were in the ring, until they got to show there "ATHLETIC ABILITY" (And an athletic ability makes you a good wrestler, right?).

Can you explain what you mean by neither one of them seemed to know what to do when they were in the ring, until they got to show their athletic ability? For instance, in the second match, I thought Shelton did a fairly competent job of portraying the role of a man who's pissed off he lost to the new guy. And he spent the entire match working on Kofi's back with body slams, a sidewalk slam into a back breaker type manuever, pulling Kofi by the back of his hair so that Kofi's lower back landed on the point of Shelton's knee, an attempted superplex, an electric chair, and a couple of hard throws into the turnbuckle. What was it that you felt Shelton and Kofi did wrong in this match? As far as I could tell the only real athletic move was Shelton's top rope jump which Kofi countered with a push.

**Magsimus** · 05-12-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kennedy=god

More like the most overrated wrestler in the WWE. He's good at what he does, but as an actual proffesional wrestler, he's ridiculously overrated. I assume you're basing it on how much the WWE pushes them, so if that is the case, you think Benjamin is better then Noble? If so, then LMFAO. BTW, the match was indeed 5 minutes, and neither of them seemed to know what to do when they were in the ring, until they got to show there "ATHLETIC ABILITY" (And an athletic ability makes you a good wrestler, right?).

wrestling is about more than just "technical" mat wrestling

ivesaidway2much · 05-12-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by no1magsfan

wrestling is about more than just "technical" mat wrestling

Although Benjamin was a two-time All-American heavyweight wrestler at the University of Minnesota, and even trained Brock Lesnar while he was there.

the snowman · 05-12-2008, 03:46 PM

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bloodline

**BrownieDude** · 05-13-2008, 03:02 AM

Shelton's actions were believable in both matches to be quite honest. In the first he was cocky and hit some very nice offence, before getting hit out of nowhere perhaps due to cockiness. Second match he played the annoyed role well as well.

And uh, how is Shelton terribly overrated? There are all these topics saying Morrison desersves a WHC push! Kofi for ECW champion! Jeff Hardy is awesome!!!

Shelton's main criticism is his lack of psychology and story-telling. Personally, I believe this is utter bullshit. People just don't want to like him and therefore don't. Yes he is athletic, but people wrongly assume that is all he can do. He can apply numerous submissions and suplexes and much more in an arsenal of wrestling moves that would make most of the main event cringe. HHH/Shelton has some of the best psychology you will ever see for a match that had no build between w midcarded and the biggest guy in the company.

I haven't seen enough of Noble to comment (I don't watch ROH) but I certainly believe he is underrated as well.

And finally, I didn't think their matches were incoherent in the slightest. They weren't out there to put on a ***** classic. They weren't even out their to put on an entertaining *** match. They were out there to build their feud which they have been doing quite effectively.

**-ShowStopper-™** · 05-13-2008, 09:00 AM

If you couldn't see the story of either Shelton/Kofi match you're a moron tbh.

Greek God · 05-13-2008, 09:49 AM

looking forward if they have a kofi and benjiman feud at the next ppv maybe a ladder match where the winner gets an ecw tittle shot the next month.

kennedy=god · 05-13-2008, 02:23 PM

Sorry, but doing a couple of moves to the back doesn't = a story to the match. There was no reason for Shelton too work on the back, it doesn't benefit him or take anything out of Kofi's game, he was just working on the back because..... i don't know really. Surely the smart thing to do would be to work on Kofi's legs, as it would take out Kofi's high flying game & take out the possibility of Kofi using his finishing move (The kick thing he does). See i'm not even a pro-wrestler and i seem to know more about the psychology aspect of wrestling then Kingston & Shelton do. The crowd didn't respond to the work on the back either which shows how the work Shelton did on the back really wasn't that good.

Ah well, thanks to Kurt Angle, doing a bunch of moves & having an amateur background makes you a brilliant wrestler (see Shelton), and thanks to RVD jumping around the ring makes you a brilliant wrestler (See Kofi).

-SS-, you need to stop flaming people whenever you disagree with them. It's just an internet forum.

**Steve Awesome** · 05-13-2008, 03:02 PM

I hope they don't face each other to often in a row.. It could end up like CM Punk/Chavo and we all know how boring that was. But I think a ladder match to decide the #1 contender for the ECW Title would be awesome!