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Yes, I enjoyed the storyline. I admit it's flaws (Like instead of having a reasonable argument on both sides, they tried to play it as the government oppresing heroes), but overall I felt it was a well-done event.

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Did you read The Confession?
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No, I didn't read any of the tie-ins, but I probably would enjoy the Confession if I enjoyed the main series. They're both the same storyline, just wirtten differently.

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the confession is the only decent attempt at rationalising the the storyline. it comes close to redeeming Tony Stark, Captain America to a lesser extent and finally gives their conflict actual depth and meaning. I loathed civil war, but the confession is arguably one of my favourite comic books ever

only amazing spider-man 537 comes close

the problem with civil war wasnt that both sides had arguments, the problem was how absolutely irrational and angry everyone acted. like they were under mind control or something. the characterisations were garbage. but they had to be garbage because it was the only way to somehow get these characters to fight

not to mention, instead of putting forth arguments over why they were right, millar and co seemed more concerned with dehumanising the other side and making them more like evil bastards

NOBODY came out of civil war looking like the 'good guy' or even a superhero. except for captain america, because he got shot. Tony Stark became a gigantic douche for years. universally hated by comic characters and readers alike. and he deserved it, despite the fact that we were supposed to be on Stark's side at the end of the war according to Joe Quesada. the only thing that would eventually redeem Tony was dying

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The characters could've ended up fighting even without acting out of character, it was just simplistic righting.

And I agree, that was the problem. The story would've been great if they simply made it so both sides were forced into conflict because they both felt right about their ideals (Kingdom Come, 2nd season of JLU, etc.). Instead it felt like tyrannical government oppressing the little guy, when they wanted to make sure it wasn't.

I enjoyed the storyline, but I will agree that with proper writing, it could've been better and possibly a great Marvel event.

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How did this go from animated universe cartoons to cómics. I know It related but damn

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because everything is about comics

the movies, your animated series, your background, your bedsheets, none of it would be possible without comic books

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Sorry, but no one was talking about the cartoons.
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Re: DC universe cartoons thoughts

All I did was mention cartoons.

And the thread is about cartoons, which themselves have had an impact on the comics.

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Maybe I missed It or my background only goes as far as teen titans.
Ive watched btas stas jl/jlu teen titans batman beyond and superfriends and the new adventures of batman and robin way back then

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