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Old 09-09-2013, 03:14 AM   #3341 (permalink)
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Yay! Great stuff Cody. I adore those films so much. The third is something else to me though. Maybe it's because I've been in and still am in a long term relationship and there's always hints of that stuff. What I loved most was the idea that the first two movies are like fairytale's and you're taken on this almost too good to be true journey which is genuinely how the start of something like that feels, and then the third hits you in the heart right where it hurts with reality, but that spark and that feeling still remain underneath it all. Wonderful movies.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:28 AM   #3342 (permalink)
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Before Midnight was kind of like a brick wall put up in front of you while going along the journey. You're feeling happy watching the bond grow until - *splat*. Reality decides to come along and make everything not so hunky dory. Tugs at your heartstrings on each go around. All in different ways. Glad I actually didn't know about these till a few months ago via your plug b/c I wouldn't have been able to handle being left off the hook on how the first two were. Got to see all three in full without waiting. Much better that way.
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:55 AM   #3343 (permalink)
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Ok I just finished Before Sunrise. This might not be a super long write-up because I just pulled an all nighter, and I wanted to give my thoughts while they were still fresh. Forgive me if my ideas are scattered about in a semi-incoherent mess, unlike my Notre Jour Viendra review which had a bit more structure to it. :/

Just have to say though.. Wow, this turned out to be the EXACT opposite of the last movie I reviewed as far as the mood it put me in. Needless to say, this was the Feel Good shit that I needed lol

Spoiler for Before Sunrise:


First thing I noticed when I watched the opening scene was that the main actors were the exact same couple in bed discussing time relativity between the dream state and the wake state in Linklater's Waking Life , which was kinda cool and already gave me an idea of what I was in for. The first scene between Hawke and Julie Delpy immediately set the tone of what was to come. Like most of Linklater's movies, he's presenting his film in a way that gives you the impression that you're eavesdropping on a natural unfolding of human interaction which is a format that's always been very hit & miss with me.

Much like movies before it (i.e. Mindwalk, A Dinner with Andre) There isn't any multi-faceted plot with edge of your seat thrills, but rather an isolated event that forces you to pay close attention to dialogue and body language , letting the core human emotions of the characters tell the story. Before Sunrise isn't really conceived as an attempt to open up it's audience to science and philosophy the way Mindwalk did, but rather as a way to reflect the purest form of love manifest. As Delpy's character puts it in the movie: "the magical space between us". There's undoubtably a lot of Linklater in Hawke's anecdotes as I suspect that the script came from a very personal place, and I could certainly tell that this was the launching point for the more ambitious approach he would later tackle in Waking Life. (where he truly attempted to educate his audience through an elaborated dream sequence).

Before Sunrise succeeds where most of his other movies to me failed, and that's because he's using the philosophical chit-chat as a backdrop to something far more important; the developing chemistry between the characters and the circumstances that bring them closer together. Julie Delpy was an absolute perfect choice for the role because she radiated a very human element, and reacted completely naturally to the events unfolding. Ethan Hawke's quirky charm brought out the best in her, and you could feel something incredibly special unfording between them with every passing hour. I don't think this movie would've worked out this well if the casting was different.

My absolute favorite scene was the "fake" phonecall conversation where they pretended to call their friends to describe the time they had with each other. That's a moment of genuine sincerity where they were both comfortable enough to put their guard down and express what the experience meant to them. There are a few times where they both quit talking and were forced into reflection, those moments were equally poignant because they enjoyed each other's company despite the complete silence. By the end, I felt like I walked in Ethan Hawke's shoes as I could instantly relate to his experience. Who wouldn't kill to spend those ineffable moment with someone that makes you forget about life's trivial things, someone to get lost in the moment with, someone that changes your life in a single night? As cliche as this may sound, that's exactly what happened here.

Before Sunset is a charmful and accomplished celebration of life where Linklater allows things to flow organically without exhausting you mentally , and this is why it works so well. There might've been moments where I felt that the dialogue was forced, but never did it hinder my overall enjoyment. Very good stuff.



Next up, Before Sunset (i'm guessing that this is 6 months later when they meet again?).


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Yay again! So glad people have liked it as much as me. Really looking forward to what you think of the others .
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Before Midnight was kind of like a brick wall put up in front of you while going along the journey. You're feeling happy watching the bond grow until - *splat*. Reality decides to come along and make everything not so hunky dory. Tugs at your heartstrings on each go around. All in different ways. Glad I actually didn't know about these till a few months ago via your plug b/c I wouldn't have been able to handle being left off the hook on how the first two were. Got to see all three in full without waiting. Much better that way.
I absolutely know this feeling. Purely because a couple of people in the thread seem to be diving into the trilogy, I'm just gonna stick this as a spoiler as a 'just in case' measure...

Spoiler for Before Midnight:
What struck me here was that in the early going, the movie starts with Jesse and Celine essentially matured, but still capable of these long conversations in a single shot, the ease of which they speak. But crucially, there are cracks here and there; the passion which with Celine talks about the potential job, the obvious shadow of Jesse's son moving back home, etc. amongst the more amiable parts.

When they return to Patrick's house, even despite the laughter of the dinner scene there's an underlying bitterness. It's just little things, like a quick shot of Jesse and Celine when other couples are talking about love, showing that their own has been strained, or when Celine is jokingly complaining about Jesse's wannabe 'macho' side, she's just a little bit too - genuine, and that's on Delpy. It all builds to the hotel room scene when you realise that this relationship is by no means perfect, it's not picturesque as you'd like to think from the first two movies, because love doesn't really work like that and the pair couldn't maintain it. It's achingly sad in places but that's where the meaning really comes in.

Glad you enjoyed them so much. I had to wait two years from watching the first two, so count yourself lucky
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:20 AM   #3346 (permalink)
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Winter Sleepers 3/5
Aguirre, Wrath of God 4.5/5

I like Aguirre. It was super slow and really long scenes, but it was so enthralling. and the guy who played Aguirre was a creep. Freaking weird guy. This movie was also shot on location; sounds like a bitch.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:07 PM   #3348 (permalink)
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fuck yeah , Aguirre is god level filmaking and Klaus Kinski is a GOAT actor and legendary fucknut insane lunatic rogue. He made 4 other films with Herzog and theyre all amazing. There's a great doc about their relationship called My Best Fiend too if youre interested.
All their movies were made in far out locations and practically drove everyone involved insane (Kinski was probably already insane though). Herzog is the master for shooting that kind of scenery too, probably my favorite director for just leaving a stationary cam on a natural scene and making it compelling.
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The opening scene is literally a camera on top of a hill, for about 15 minutes, filming the cast walking along a hill side. No credits, no music (I think). Klaus Kinski you say? Yeah, that guy stood out in the first scene he was in. I knew he was creepy the first scene with his daughter and him feeling each other up.

Just the way he walked around, like a limp but more of a leaning to the right. A good cross between Apocalypse Now and Vahalla Rising.

I should probably post my whole German film syllabus. If I keep this up I'll have a minor in film before I know it.
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now you have to see Fitzcarraldo and the Nosferatu remake
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