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who was it here who just saw the place beyond the pines? what about that now?
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Has anyone seen The Place Beyond The Pines already? I liked it, the 3 act structure was really well done. 140 mins and no
single breez of boredom even though the ending dragged a bit. Performances were okay, still not impressed by either Gosling or Cooper considering they belong to the big fishes in this industry by now if you may say. The Score by Mike Patton was applicable to the great atmosphere director Derek(Blue Valentine) created. Huge step for him, solid 8/10 for my part.
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Spoke about this in the old thread when I posted a radio interview my buddy's co-worker at FlashFilmWorks conducted on the state of VFX companies in America. It's really, really bad. Just look at the Rhythm and Hues bankrupsy, the $150 million that was paid for six actors and one writer/director for Avengers 2 that could employ the 250 unemployed R&H Studios people and run the joint for at least two years. There is just so much back room, off books collusion going on, as well as Studios breaking contracts or demanding changes and not paying for them with their strategy being "Sue us. We have multimillion dollars legal teams and you'll never get work from us again." Case in point, we'll be lucky to have viable VFX studios in a few years with this type of mistreatement. Hopefully the VFX guys go on strike and see what that does to the release schedules of the summer tentpoles. lol
Film studios know that VFX talent is easy to find and replace - if talent is considered in loose terms - and so they go to the lowest bidder and never worry about breaking promises. For every director who takes careful effort to work with the best there are dozens who are happy to let the money be spent elsewhere and settle for substandard results, sometimes even drafting in students. At times, it seems as if people assume anyone can magically deliver quality VFX so long as they have a bit of training and access to computers. The situation is pretty dire.

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post #114 of 5768 (permalink) Old 05-10-2013, 03:29 PM
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Not watched Stay yet, sorry dear blarg .
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Film studios know that VFX talent is easy to find and replace - if talent is considered in loose terms - and so they go to the lowest bidder and never worry about breaking promises. For every director who takes careful effort to work with the best there are dozens who are happy to let the money be spent elsewhere and settle for substandard results, sometimes even drafting in students. At times, it seems as if people assume anyone can magically deliver quality VFX so long as they have a bit of training and access to computers. The situation is pretty dire.
Well said and agreed.

It really is a tough market all around. In several lines of work, a lot of jobs (especially in manufacturing) went overseas about a decade ago. They're just starting to come back, in large part due to logistics costs. The VFX industry doesn't have that kind of pressure to pull work back here, I imagine there's a flood of talent keeping wages down. Fun jobs always attract too many people, find a crappy job that nobody else wants to/will do, and I bet the pay will be better. Even if it's getting very bad with the VFX industry, this sort of thing happens anywhere where there's an imbalance of power. Too many companies intentionally violate payment terms or take unauthorized discounts, especially when there are a lot of alternatives. If the supplier balks, they may get the right payments once, but then they will lose the business long term. It's basically a secondary strong-arm negotiation, but not unique to this industry.

Guess it hits close to home since I have a good friend making a living in that industry, and I hear too much about the neglect to simply ignore it, even if it has a minimal effect on my own personal life. I don't put as big an importance on CGI/VFX as most people do, and see it as a secondary thing that's being put far too much precedence over things like say; a compelling story. Despite that, even I can admit that it sucks for the people who pour their heart and soul into their line of work only to be treated like shit.


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Apparently Gravity might have a 20 minute long opening shot. Really looking forward to that, I can't believe Alfonso Cuarón hasn't directed a film since Children Of Men. It's been too long.



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20 minutes into Safety Not Guaranteed and I'm loving it. Aubrey Plaza, something hypnotic about her.
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Safety Not Guaranteed was one of my favorites last year. That's what movies always need to be - a super fun time while you watch. Well, for that given type of flick, yeah, that assessment fits.

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Safety Not Guaranteed was one of my favorites last year. That's what movies always need to be - a super fun time while you watch. Well, for that given type of flick, yeah, that assessment fits.




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