asdf0501

La Jetee is awesome, Marker is still one of my favorite directors. Sans Soleil is one of the most powerful things i have ever seen.

About Kubrick, yes i understand what you mean in the technical aspect and i don't pull the movie aside, but number 1 in a decade with an incredible amount of masterpieces like the 60's seems a little too much. At least to me.

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Bubz

Is La Jetee the film that 12 Monkeys was inspired be? I really need to see that. It's only half hour too I think. Might watch it later today.

asdf0501

Yes, it's a Photomontage without moving, except one moment. Amazing

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I agree with #1 and #2. The 60s are my favorite movie decade, tbh. Love it.

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Henry Hill

I'm a big fan of Kubrick, Kidman and Cruise but Eyes Wide Shut is pure trash on an otherwise stellar CV for the director. The opening five seconds is all you need your eyes open for.

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blarg_

Respecting your opinion, but I am curious as to why you think it's trash..?

Henry Hill

Because I find it long, unmoving and ponderous. A rather desperate attempt at an artistic product which doesn't have anything artistic to express at all. The orgy scenes are just embarrassing.

The trailer however with the Chris Isaak soundtrack is awesome. I'll give it that.

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But that is justified, the orgies scenes are in that way beacause there are mostly dreamed secuences and if they are real they are just ridiculous like they should be.

Mostly is a ambiguouss dream, the takes are not longs because they want to be artistic, the takes are long beacuse the dream is pleaseant or, in the case that the movie is not a dream they are just describing the ambient

I rather find ridiculous Full Metal Jacket (a bad war movie), Paths Of Glory (with a ridiculous and hipocrit ending) and the shining (specially with the annoying overracting of Nicholson)

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Fair enough. Seems like the same type of criticism often linked to 2001. Long, unmoving and ponderous is subjective to the interpreter, but I do think that Eyes Wide Shut expresses far more than meets the eye. (hence the title)

The orgy scene is a replication of the Kabbalistic Sex Magick ritual that dates back to Babylon. In the movie, the ritual is performed as an affirmation of the global elite's power over their sex slaves by casting "Telesmic images" (the process of creating a telos, a mind enduced spell through harnessed sexual energy) into their slaves by means of ejaculation. It sounds fucked up, but the entire movie is soaked in esoteric symbolism of the occult which was Kubrick's artistic expression.

Eyes wide shut isn't for everybody, but the more you delve into the study of ancient schools of thought and secret societies, the more fascinating this movie becomes and starts making more sense. The overlying theme of the movie (Cruise's relationship troubles with Kidman)is only an allegory that ties into Kubrick's bigger picture. If you're looking at the movie hoping for a straight forward narrative then you'll be disappointed, if you're looking for an exciting buildup to some crazy climax then you'll be disappointed as well. It's a complicated movie with cold characters, but it needed to be to get it's message across as realistically as possible. When you start understanding what's going on, some of the scenes (particularly the ritual scene) hits you like a ton of bricks.