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**McQueen** · 11-10-2012, 10:08 PM

You could win an Oscar for acting like a butthurt ...... who can't accept Heath Ledger won an award that really in the end doesn't mean a damn thing anyways. Get over yourself.

B.B Initials · 11-11-2012, 07:28 AM

Heath Ledger Performance as a joker was outstanding, he was insane and mad, unhinged and clever at the same time he acted it with his mind his guts and body expression a real challenge for the true gifted actor he was ...gone too soon.

its177 · 11-12-2012, 09:32 AM

Never thought Ledgers performance was amazing. It was good but not amazing. I had too many problems with this version of the joker for me to think it was amazing

what I had problems with performance wise

-him licking his lips annoyed the hell out of me and seemed forced and overdone
-Whenever he laughed it didn't sound legit. Again for some reason it sounded really forced to me.

What I had problem with in terms of portrayal:

I didn't like his whole ordeal of wanting to "corrupt" everyone( he was more like "the corrupter" in this than "the joker". and yes this joker had a motive in this movie whether people want to admit it or not) I've never seen the joker as someone who cares about "bringing someone to his level". to me all the joker should care about is messing with people and having a BLAST doing it.... basically doing fucked up things because he CAN and because its damn fun to him. That's it. Thats his only motive. The DK version seemed too concerned with peoples moral stances to the point where it sorta came off to me as a guy who deep down wasn't REALLY evil(the joker should be PURE evil), but a guy who's only evil because something terrible happened to him and now wants people to be on his level so that he doesn't have to feel alone in his thinking. CLEARLY nolan took this from the Killing Joke comic(which turned joker into a sympathetic villain) and tbh i didn't like the fact that they did this. The Joker to me should NEVER be anywhere near sympathetic. He's purely evil, someone who can NEVER be rehabilitated because he's not doing it because of some loss or problem he had in the past.

Anyway overall i didn't think his performance was bad, it was good in some parts but overall i didn't think it was a amazing. Should he have deserved a nomination? yea but I don't think he should've won an oscar. Especially since he pretty much ripped the voice straight from this guy

Goodell Mark · 11-12-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by McQueen

You could win an Oscar for acting like a butthurt ...... who can't accept Heath Ledger won an award that really in the end doesn't mean a damn thing anyways. Get over yourself.

My perception of this is reality and deserves to be shared aggressively dawg. The Oscars ARE prestigious and his win was disgraceful.

Smif-N-Wessun · 11-13-2012, 09:14 AM

I can understand why people wouldn't like Ledger's Joker due to how fucking psychotic he was, but here's the thing: that's what he was shooting for. He didn't just passably portray some crazy guy. He played the role so well, he actually made a lot of people UNCOMFORTABLE. Something to take into account.

Also, I don't see how his laughs were forced at all.

Goodell Mark · 11-13-2012, 11:54 AM

His performance was not uncomfortable in the slightest. Walk through a ghetto in Detroit or Baltimore.

WWCturbo · 11-13-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B.B Initials

Heath Ledger Performance as a joker was outstanding, he was insane and mad, unhinged and clever at the same time he acted it with his mind his guts and body expression a real challenge for the true gifted actor he was ...gone too soon.

its177 · 11-13-2012, 08:40 PM

tbh i don't really see how this joker was really that insane i mean he was merely acting out anarchy/moral nihilism which has LOGICAL reasons behind them. i mean he LOOKED and came off insane no doubt but everything he did had a deeper purpose and motive behind it. compare that to the burton version who didn't look nearly as insane, but had him TALKING to a dead corpse for like 2 minutes, killing a whole art gallery of people and dancing right after all before meeting up with a photographer to take art pictures..., getting PISSED off and killing his right hand man just because batman stole his balloons....i mean seriously how morbid as fuck is that? He was even making jokes to batman WHILE he was getting his ass beat.