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Old 09-30-2012, 02:58 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Tig couldn't have died, if Jax had Tig die, he never would have got out of prison, Tig is who Pope wants to suffer under his terms. Seen by the original offer Pope had of Tig having to stay behind bars. Better to kill off a character creative has nothing left for, and don't give me that kill Clay bull crap, that Jax's kill. Going in to that kill, it was Op, Jax, Chibbs, Tig, for me as to who'd be killed. Jax knew Op would do it, he knew it, and kept him around in the discussion to set it up.
Glad to see someone else agree that there wasn't much left to do with Opie's character and it was time for him to go whether he was a big fan-favorite or not.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:30 PM   #92 (permalink)
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anyone see tonights episode? was definitely a great sendoff to opie and just shows how much more shits gonna pick up in the upcoming weeks lol
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Nero is going bad soon.
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Hope Jax figures out their retaliation soon. Someone needs to die for Opie's murder. Gemma and Tara being annoying as usual. Can't even keep their personal shit on hold on a day like that.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:25 PM   #96 (permalink)
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I didn't want to post on Opie's death until I made sure he was actually gone. Please bear with me while I go back to last week.

I am so pissed they killed off the best, most likeable, most endearing character on the show. The death scene was disturbing, beautiful, deep, and grotesque all at the same time. I may not have had a problem with it if there were only a few episodes to go, but there is the better part of 2 seasons to go (at least). I was so psyched in episode 2 and Opie was back in the fold. I said to myself "Ope's back" and was really looking forward to his development. It seems like they rushed killing him off to me.

Opie represented to me the one guy you want to see make it out in some form in the end. Over 5 seasons the story of the Opie character has become-at least to me- more believable, more interesting, just more endearing then Jax's story of his rise. I understand the story is based on Hamlet so certain things have to go certain ways, but the Opie character (and the way Ryan Hurst played him) was lightening in a bottle. I have never had a character death affect me like Opie's did. And it wasn't the feeling of a brother died( as I have seen some people say) , or the shock of it. It was "Damn this is the one guy I could honestly root for because his story is genuine and natural". I know in my opinion if Opie's story became central to the story line along with Jax's and not just a background story line hell if his story started to become the main story line- I would have been OK with it.

This is how I look at it. Jax's story hinges on him fulfilling his dead fathers dream. It is a nice story that was an adequate basis for when the series started. But his story wasn't powerful to me. It was the already crowned prince thinking the king is running the kingdom wrong. I get it. I get Jax doesn't know the whole story of Gemma's involvement. But the problem is the damage was already done when the series started. There was no chance at redemption for Jax other then to rule the club.

Opie we saw the pain happen to. Opie was a soldier whose life was changed by the club. The people that wanted Opie and not the club were the ones who suffered. Opie's arch was very very similar to the movie Gladiator, except in this story he had a chance at redemption. He had Layla and his kids. He was a family man at heart.

I also have seen people say that there was no place for Opie to go in this story. I don't believe that. I could have seen an arch where Opie gave in to his darkness and started to become like Tig where life didn't matter while Jax kept to his values, reversing the roles they played with Jax keeping Opie grounded instead of the other way around with perhaps a final showdown to end the series where only one of them could survive it.

Another story arch they could have pulled is Jax and Opie against the old guard. Kind of like the civil war that was teased a few seasons ago when Jax wanted to go Nomad because he had enough but to the next level with a full on revolt of Clay, Tig, Happy, Juice against Jax, Opie, Bobby, and Chibbs.

My favorite storyline they could have went with is Jax spiraling out of control descending into Clay's darkeness while Opie tries to keep him right. Opie's own father aligned with Jax, and it aligns with Opie's morals so it makes sense. In the end, in true Shakespearean tragedy fashion Jax is killed by Opie in a final showdown, where right before he dies Jax returns to his honorable roots and Opie is left to helm the club that took so much from him. Hell, I would have been OK with Opie dying in the last episode in the exact same fashion as a way to make Jax see what he became and to truly change him.

I read Kurt Sutter's reasons for killing Opie and I am calling BS. Opie did not need to die, it was just written that way. Chibs-maybe my second favorite character- has been hanging around for how many seasons in the background as an uncle figure to Jax. Chibs had wrapped up his family problems and assured them protection at the end of the Irish storyline. I think that is a character with nowhere to go. I am not saying this is what happened, but I think Opie's story was getting more powerful, more emotional, and connected with the audience more

In all after watching this episode it really does feel like a new show to me. I was one of those guys that was saying I'm done, but I decided to give it a chance. After last night's episode I got to say I am still not sure. It seemed a lot like episode 1 and 2 of this would have been with no Opie.

Sorry for the rant but I had a full week to digest.
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They couldn't have got rid of Chibbs after he just became the Sgt at Arms for Jax, that would've looked rushed that they offed him so suddenly Opie was back in the fold and could be Jax's next SA. I agree I didn't think Ope needed to die as I liked the current group as it was, but he didnt really have anywhere to go apart from just be there as Jax's friend, and no more than Juice/Happy/Tig are now as just regular club members.
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They couldn't have got rid of Chibbs after he just became the Sgt at Arms for Jax, that would've looked rushed that they offed him so suddenly Opie was back in the fold and could be Jax's next SA. I agree I didn't think Ope needed to die as I liked the current group as it was, but he didnt really have anywhere to go apart from just be there as Jax's friend, and no more than Juice/Happy/Tig are now as just regular club members.
I don't agree on Chibs. I feel they rushed Opie's death lol. He just became S of A so it would have more meaning plus a spot would open up a place for a guy like Happy-a guy comparable to Tig but not as crazy- at the table. I thought Chibs was gonna be VP instead of Ope. Chibs doesn't strike me as a guy that is the enforcer for the group. He is a level headed thinker who saves the violence for when it means most.

I gotta be honest between Tig saying he should be in there but couldn't and Jax and Opie ready to volunteer to go in, Chibs was strangely out of the picture. And I say this liking Chibs. The way it was written, Pope could have fingered ANY son. To me Chibs seemed out of place there. He didn't serve a purpose.

I get Opie being close to Jax but anyone could have filled Opie's role to die because Jax had to decide it. This would play perfectly into Jax starting to turn into Clay. He would have decided to kill one of his brothers. Essentially what Clay has been doing for 4 seasons now. I go back to the arch I wish they took with Jax turning to Clay and Opie trying to be Jax's friend, anchor, and foil all at the same time. 2 original 9 sons going at it. Brother against brother. The prince vs the soldier.
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And before I edit my other post to death something I forgot to say.

Clay was in bed with Pope in regards to Opie being killed. Clay got Opie to go in with Jax and there is no way Clay wants Jax to survive, imo. I don't know the arch but this is a feeling I keep getting.
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