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One of the creepiest film themes ever. Halloween II wasn't bad. H20 is great, too.
Actually watched both of those films in the same week after I watched the Original.

Thought II was a very fine sequel to the original, though I'd fall short of calling it equal. Think that's due to the original being far more suspenful and maticulate in how they kept the viewer waiting without any knowledge of what was coming, in a sequel you're a bit more expectant on what they're trying to accomplish and can sort of anticipate Michael better, but the pacing and suspense is still handled superbly in this film, and the score continues to provide for an enthralling eerie tension whenever Michael is about.

Loved how they kept the alternate camera angles to really capture Michael's movement and how his actions would intimidate and frighten the victims. Also thought the amount of off screen kills was done well to remind you how sharp and efficient Michael is. The fact that one of the more gruesome deaths (draining the head nurse/doctor) of her blood comes this way also impressed me: kind of reminds you of how sick and depraved Michael can be with his kills without making every kill of his that you see feel too gruesome, avoids you becoming desensitised to the violence. Heard this was 'too gory' for some critics, but I didn't think it was that far more gory than the original, aside from a bit more blood. Still I thought the sequel was wise to include more violence, the original was all about creating the fear that is Michael Myers, once we got accustomed to his eery presence and not knowing how or when he'd strike, it made sense for a sequel to follow him more and see just how ruthless and sick he could be.

H20 is a really great completion of the story if you just focus on Halloween and Halloween II. Jamie Lee Curtis is amazing as this shrivelled and permanently neurotic victim who's never escaped her demons and chooses to repress them through alcohol and just pure denial. That being said the overall presentation felt like more of your typical 90s horror than the Original Halloween. I admit trying to compare any horror to the original is unfair, but whilst I did enjoy it I can't help but think its clearly caught up in the 90s era and style rather than the 70s/80s themes Carpenter ensured dominated his film. Its better than Halloween IV (only other I watched simply for Craig calling it a nice timeline between Halloween II and H20 as well as a great ending), but I think the first two films are comfortably the best in the series. With every passing film Michael becomes more and more of your cliche 'greatest hits' villian and less the mysterious and enigmatic terror he was in the first two films. Donald Pleasance was great in everyone I saw though, really sells the horror and destruction that is Michael Myers to absolute perfection.

The ending to Halloween IV was brilliant though. Wasn't a great fan of the movie as a whole, but god damn was the ending terrific.
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Same here. My reaction to her knowing that her Mother was in the room during that entire time was priceless. Oh, how I get so sucked into that movie.

I actually compared her to Portman when she was young. Portman was already a beauty when she was in The Professional. You can tell that she would grow into a very attractive women. It's exactly the same for CGM for me. Only, I think she's attractive now as it is. Too many people are hung up on the age.

Seeing how today is Halloween I'm thinking of going the route of doing nothing but watching Horror/Slasher/Thriller films tonight. Got a pretty decent collection, but any reccomendations? Have the Halloween deuce (Rob Zombie's), Scream 1-4, all 7 of the SAW flicks, and one of my personal favorites, Teeth, lined up.

I wished I had more zombie flicks. So many classics from the 80's. Plus Zombie Strippers.
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H20 is a really great completion of the story if you just focus on Halloween and Halloween II. Jamie Lee Curtis is amazing as this shrivelled and permanently neurotic victim who's never escaped her demons and chooses to repress them through alcohol and just pure denial. That being said the overall presentation felt like more of your typical 90s horror than the Original Halloween. I admit trying to compare any horror to the original is unfair, but whilst I did enjoy it I can't help but think its clearly caught up in the 90s era and style rather than the 70s/80s themes Carpenter ensured dominated his film. Its better than Halloween IV (only other I watched simply for Craig calling it a nice timeline between Halloween II and H20 as well as a great ending), but I think the first two films are comfortably the best in the series. With every passing film Michael becomes more and more of your cliche 'greatest hits' villian and less the mysterious and enigmatic terror he was in the first two films. Donald Pleasance was great in everyone I saw though, really sells the horror and destruction that is Michael Myers to absolute perfection.

The ending to Halloween IV was brilliant though. Wasn't a great fan of the movie as a whole, but god damn was the ending terrific.
Oh shit I'd been meaning to ask you if you watched H20 yet, yeah it does feel way too much like a generic 90s Slasher in the way it's filmed but the story does make up for it, ending is superb too, I mean it's a bit dumb but those final two minutes where Michael's pinned under the ambulance are great, shame Ressurection changed that so:

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Michael actually woke up being out into the ambulance, swapped places with a paramedic and crushed his larynx so he couldn't call for help.

Then he went and fought Busta Rhymes and Tyra Banks. The. End


The first 10 minutes of H20 are pretty great too I thought, it was pretty cool of them to bring back the nurse from 1 & 2 for that and Joseph Gordon Levitt gets an Ice Hockey Boot to the face (I also love how they had the black detective there talking about how Michael would be 9 years younger than him because there had been alot of jokes about how Michael would be too old in the timeline)

Also you watched Prison Break didn't you? The girl that got the dumb waiter dropped on her leg played Gretchen Morgan in that, took me a fucking eternity before I realised (although it also took me twenty minutes to realise that the random Scottish old man who stumbled around in Skyfall was Albert Finney so I do that much too often (No revealing that Albert Finney plays a Scotsman in Skyfall is not a spoiler, fuck you))

Yeah, I rewatched IV after recommending it and I apologise, I forgot how dumb the whole posse shtick was, Pleasance is still great though and that ending was glorious, just the sort of ambiguity I like for the series, unlike V and VI (FUCK FUCK FUCK THEY WERE DUMB (Although V does have one great scene where Loomis confronts Michael in the Myers' house (Which has somehow became a gothic mansion inbetween II and V) and he just... talks to him for like 3 minutes, Michael just stands listening as Loomis pours his heart out and doesn't attack until Loomis tries to take Michael's knife and it's just... great)). Also I only just realised it's a rare extended cut of H20 that makes the references to Jamie Lloyd, so yeah, double apologies.
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Holy shit does that Resurrection twist suck balls.

I actually loved the final scene as you mentioned. Seeing Michael look afraid made you think there might exist a small shread of the innocent child he once was....then you remember he's a heartless cold-blooded killer and you realise he's luring Laurie into a trap. Yeah the story was good but things like the music and cinematography just really referenced how it was immersed in the 90s atmosphere, and for that reason it did feel a little weird to me and made it harder for me to love it as 1 and 2. I did love all the Laurie/Michael chases though, they never fail to shoot those scenes expertly and really create this un-nerving tension. Think its because Laurie is written and acted in a very sympathetic manner so there's always this sense of attachment to her character that you don't get in enough horror films.

Yeah I read about a deleted/alternate scene which has a student reference Jamie's death and Laurie's reaction of throwing up when she's alone. Good thing they decided to discontinue the continuity, since faking her death but leaving her daughter at Michael's mercy would have really taken away from the sympathy Laurie's character generates.
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It also commits the ultimate no-no of killing Laurie Strode.... 15 minutes into the movie. FIFTEEN MINUTES IN.



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I bought Resurrection. Watched it. Sold it.

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It also commits the ultimate no-no of killing Laurie Strode.... 15 minutes into the movie. FIFTEEN MINUTES IN.



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Jesus christ, I have no desire to ever watch such an abomination if that's the case.
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Hey, Sephy, Leon has been referred to as "The Professional" again. Think you need to come out now.
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Watched some horror stuff because...it's Halloween, and that's how I roll...

Psycho (1960) which was brilliant, not on the level of the other Hitchcock films I've seen, but that's not a bad thing because this movie still ruled. Shower Scene is so much better seeing it the context of the film instead of seeing clips of it on tv shows or whatever out of context. It works so well because it's pretty much out of the blue, and it's the first real moment that the film ventures into the horror genre. It's still really effective today imo. The final act, as with every Hitchcock film I've seen is superb. Great stuff.

Halloween (1978), It really is fucking great. The final 15 minutes are incredible edge of your seat stuff that really propel the film in to classic territory. So many great lines 'the blackest eyes...the devils eyes' and 'Death has come to your little town sheriff'. Awesome. The final shots with the camera zooming out and showing different shots of the house, inside and then outside while you can hear Michael breathing was so fucking spine chilling it was ridiculous, this evil force is everywhere, he's going to get you no matter what and there's absolutely fuck all you can do about it. Amazing film, and it's only gotten better with age and will continue to get better the more the studios churn out these bullshit remakes and sequels to films like this.

Freaks (1932). Oh this film. An absolutely fantastic film, not so much a full on horror film, and to my complete surprise it was full of great characters and it was really quite powerful. A great look at how we treat people who are different, not only 'freaks' as they're known in this film, but men and women too. I loved that we got to know the sideshow performers and all their relationships along with the normal people, who turn out to be the real 'monsters' of the film. This was just brilliant, the end was seriously creepy and it was so effective because what happened was really left to our imagination. I recommend this to everyone, it's a genuinely great film.
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It also commits the ultimate no-no of killing Laurie Strode.... 15 minutes into the movie. FIFTEEN MINUTES IN.



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