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Old 10-18-2012, 01:41 PM   #461 (permalink)
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I'm the opposite of bubz. I can enjoy nearly all horror movies. Although only a small percentage of them are actually good ,I've always enjoyed them. I get all nostalgic listening to screeching violins or long dark corridors. Maybe it is just the nostalgia, but whatever, I love my horror.

When I watch particular horror movies, I care not for plot coherence or character development, or even decent cinematography, I just want what the movie intends to give; whether that may be gore, creepy children or boobs, it really doesn't matter.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:50 PM   #462 (permalink)
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I adore horror movies, it's just a real shame that the vast majority of them are utter schlock. I mean some people seem to think a horror movie has to be dead serious to the point it's bordering on camp and yes, serious horror movies can be astonishingly brilliant, but then some just get over serious or rely on jump scares or what have you, looking purely at "modern" (1978 onwards) horror alot seem to think all you need is some loud sound effects and a few jump scares, there's a reason a film like Halloween is revered and... I dunno, I Know What You Did Last Summer isn't, Halloween creates a real sense of foreboding and horror, it gives you a big chance to get to know all your main characters (And it came out before those characters became horror movie cliche) and it also doesn't just rely on a teen group, a horror movie with just teens is a horrible played out thing, even modern slashers can be good as long as it's not your stereotypical "jock, nerd, virgin" layout, you need a Dr Loomis or fuck even a Laurie Strode in Halloween H20 (Is it weird that in my head the "Official" Halloween series just goes 1, 2 and H20? They make a complete story, make perfect sense coherently and are just damn good (Although you need to watch 1 and 2 in a double bill (They're set minutes apart) for maximum effect))

But yeah, that list up there is pretty magnificent, a Freaks mention and The Tenant getting a look in are glorious.

I still maintain Nosferatu is possibly the creepiest film out there, it's one of those films that really improves with age, the 1922 film look around it really helps give it an otherworld quality.

Also more folk should watch John Carpenter's non-big movies, even a mildly generic ghost story like The Fog comes out as something special when he puts his hands on it.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:07 PM   #463 (permalink)
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The thing is, I've seen a bunch of those films (some I haven't), and I just never seem to find much to like about them. The Exorcist, The Shining and Texas Chainsaw Massacre are three really overrated films imo. I haven't seen TCM for years but I didn't like it the last time I saw it. I actually watched the other two more recently and The Shining bored me to tears and has Nicholson in overacting mode, and The Exorcist just didn't do anything for me at all. There's just this disconnect between me and the genre, even a lot of the classic horror films and a bunch of the ones you listed there, and the ones I haven't seen I've read about, but have no motivation to watch them because I know I probably won't enjoy them. It's my movie blindspot tbh.

The Thing is amazing though.
Like a recommendation, look at them just for fun. Many times people look to horror films looking at opressors structures or creepy ambient and movies like TCM or Suspiria have effects that seems the most cheesy thing ever. But that has a explanation, is serie b, is filmmakers ridiculing the excess of violence. Or at least i want to believe that.

But yes, in general the Horror is a "take it or let it" thing, when i began to introduce myself more in the cinema world i rejected the horror genre for sometime because i was idiot enough to believe that it wasn't serious enough or "cinematographically good"

And yeah i agree with your feelings about The Shining, specially in the Nicholson department

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A top 20 horror movies list without the movie Jaws just seems like a fraudulent list to me.

Jaws is the only horror movie to have ever affected me in real life. I will not go in the ocean. I wont. On the list of horror movies, to me, it's Jaws and then everything else.
I think Jaws is a step beyond movies with a similar idea like Psycho, Halloween or Alien. But still is a great movie and one of the few real good things Spielberg has done

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I adore horror movies, it's just a real shame that the vast majority of them are utter schlock. I mean some people seem to think a horror movie has to be dead serious to the point it's bordering on camp and yes, serious horror movies can be astonishingly brilliant, but then some just get over serious or rely on jump scares or what have you, looking purely at "modern" (1978 onwards) horror alot seem to think all you need is some loud sound effects and a few jump scares, there's a reason a film like Halloween is revered and... I dunno, I Know What You Did Last Summer isn't, Halloween creates a real sense of foreboding and horror, it gives you a big chance to get to know all your main characters (And it came out before those characters became horror movie cliche) and it also doesn't just rely on a teen group, a horror movie with just teens is a horrible played out thing, even modern slashers can be good as long as it's not your stereotypical "jock, nerd, virgin" layout, you need a Dr Loomis or fuck even a Laurie Strode in Halloween H20 (Is it weird that in my head the "Official" Halloween series just goes 1, 2 and H20? They make a complete story, make perfect sense coherently and are just damn good (Although you need to watch 1 and 2 in a double bill (They're set minutes apart) for maximum effect))
I love this Ascetic and malevolous feeling in Halloween. This "virgin" thing actually works because Michaels is an Omnipresent figure that seems to be the Evil himself and Laurie is the Opposite figure

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I still maintain Nosferatu is possibly the creepiest film out there, it's one of those films that really improves with age, the 1922 film look around it really helps give it an otherworld quality.

There is an incredible remake of the Murnau version made it by Herzog, i believe that is even a better version for some moments. Also Klaus Kinski is out of this world in the Nosferatu Role
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Yeah the original Halloween is a great movie.

Also, I've never really considered Jaws a horror film to be honest, but yeah, it is the only film to legit scare me of doing something in real life. Like, the shots filmed from above the water and you see the shark's silhouette swimming past the kid in the dingy. Jesus christ, it looks so fucking terrifying. I think of it every time I'm in the ocean, seriously, even in swimming pools.
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Pierrot Le Fou (Godard, 1965)
I recently watched Breathless for the first time and I instantly adored it, but this was even better. The film doesn't have a traditional narrative driven story, but at the same time it's a very simple story with a lot of extra greatness thrown in. It felt like Godard was playing around here just for fun in some scenes, and it's all the better for it. The use of pop culture was brilliantly done, and the recklessness of young people in love was amazingly portrayed. The editing was amazing, I've never seen anything quite like it before. I also thought the way the film was a statement on cinema as a whole was really interesting, it could have easily come off as pretentious, but it didn't at all. The characters would break the fourth wall (just like in Breathless), and it didn't seem forced or in any way like it was trying too hard to mess around with the fundamentals of cinema to garner a reaction. That's not to say it doesn't get a reaction, because it does, but it fits in with the film so well that it almost feels normal. The use of colour and lighting to highlight different settings and moods was brilliant and visually amazing, and the narration was almost haunting in it's delivery in some scenes, especially the final lines. To put it simply, this is a piece of art, and a masterclass in film making from Godard. It's not for everyone by any means, but if you're looking for something with more to it than a simple narrative, I'm pretty sure it won't get much better than this. Incredible film.
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Bubz when did you become that pretentious arthouse movie critic. Go back to getting drunk and watching Nic Cage flicks please.
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Unless that Nic Cage movie is Kick Ass, it isn't worth seeing. (he was carried by Chloe Grace Moretz anyways)
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Obviously you've never seen Drive Angry 3D.
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