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Old 02-25-2013, 06:52 PM   #3221 (permalink)
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Does Ellen Page count even though she's four years older than her? Not saying Ellen is better than Jennifer but closer to that level. I agree Jennifer is the great and has few contemporaries with her quality.
I'd argue that Page has fallen a bit by the wayside. While she is talented, Lawrence is more talented. But that's just maybe a bit biased...

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Saw Zero Dark Thirty. Some of it is hard to watch, and some of it drags, but it's pretty good overall. Still no clue how factual it all really is though.

Dude who played Dan, still don't know this man's name, needs to be in more movies.

Also Andy from Parks and Rec, aka Chris Pratt, was kinda a pyscho.
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Saw Zero Dark Thirty. Some of it is hard to watch, and some of it drags, but it's pretty good overall. Still no clue how factual it all really is though.

Dude who played Dan, still don't know this man's name, needs to be in more movies.

Also Andy from Parks and Rec, aka Chris Pratt, was kinda a pyscho.
Jason Clarke, only other stuff I seen him in was Public Enemies, Lawless and Wall Street 2. Good actor.
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Saw Zero Dark Thirty. Some of it is hard to watch, and some of it drags, but it's pretty good overall. Still no clue how factual it all really is though.

Dude who played Dan, still don't know this man's name, needs to be in more movies.

Also Andy from Parks and Rec, aka Chris Pratt, was kinda a pyscho.
Even though I like ZD30, it only made my honorable mentions list for best of 2012. I got the sense of a lengthy Law & Order episode. Hell, they even have the text cards thrown up, and all that is missing there is the "doink doink!' from the show. Still a very strong film, though.
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Oldboy was on tonight. One of my favourite films of all time. Can't see how the American remake coming out this year is going to deal with some of the themes dealt with in the Korean original though.
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i been lazy this last week but now i'm come back. So everybody now is turn for the next movie in this Carpenter project and we meet this time with:




This is yet another really strange Carpenter and being honest it was one of the movies i wanted to rewatch (until i got lazy). didn't remember much of this but i can said i was really impresed the first time or i got that impresion

For starters there is this typical and for now enough talked Hawks element. But here the characters are not surrounded until the very end and impressively the movie is not so "cinematic" driven like is literary. So i was really impressed when i note this time that just like "In The Mouth of Madness" (hopefully i will get there someday xD) is pure Lovecraft, this movie is pure Poe, in fact we star with one quote from him



And we enter in this tale that the marine says to the kids, the quote is apropiate because funct like a way to emphsize this meta-cinematographic recurse, we are in a tale inside another tale. But later on one of the kids will be one of the main characters and will tell part of this to his mother, so the question is. We are into a tale? or what we see is the reality?. This seems another hot topic in Carpenter filmography, to note: in what can we trust? wich is more subtle if you think about it and is heavy related with his constant political critic.

Then we get a build for the attack from The Fog, very similar to the one in Halloween, with a very little difference. This time there is not a real protagonist, there are simultaneous stories happen at the same time like a way to introduce and explain motivations. Wich is great, because again, we are in this subtle world were the story and the motivations are what matters so is useless to focus on someone and lose the important idea here. And like in every great movie, you get things by omission, the relation between characters his resolutions or what is in their minds, for example in the constant shots of the sea (in wich is another Subtle and constant Poe reference) trying to see the Fog. This is specially important in the horror department because follow the "Less is more" rule and is successful to get the public constantly invested in what is happening, this goes so far that, like almost always in Carpenter, even the Murders are shot out of frame or with enough darkness to not see completly what is happening (Just like in the Halloween murders)

And behind all of this you get again the ironic political reference. The cynism about a town born with blood on his hands, celebrating his anniversary and success based in his original sin, and the revenge that this sin is going to end with. Amazing reference to.... well i suposse everybody get it xD.

For the other side, all this structure is damaged in some aspect by the portray of the fantastic elements, wich is sad. All this subtle elements and omission that build suspense will be a lot better with the Fog being just as subtle and mysterious, instead you get this ghost-creatures that came from The Fog and killed the people, wich destroys all this fantastic tone created across the build, transforming something mysterious in obvious and logical, breaking all the structure.



By all accounts and reading some stuff i understand that Carpenter had to shot 40 minutes more of film to replace some thing because he wasn't really happy with the movie, and i can understand that he probably has to introduce this kind of elements because comercial obligations but still hurts the final product.

Finally i always has been celebrating the way in wich Carpenter ends his movies, but this time is something a little conservative. This extraordinary political metaphor is destroyed because this ghosts came to peace with the town after payback when there is no possible payback, you can't restitute the lives lost, and even when the fog came back, why forgive the other people?



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2- Halloween
3- Elvis (TV film)
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That was great asdf but daaaamn Halloween has to be first, surely!?
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Is little the difference between Assault and Halloween, but Assault has this amazing ice cream scene and the structure mirror with Rio Bravo wich i really love. But at this rate i doubt that Assault end being the #1 when i end this (someday xD)
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Spike Lee is doing it so you know it's gonna be- aww wait... nevermind


We watched "Broken Arrow" (1950) with James "America" Stewart. I liked the story but the dialogue was so...1950s. The love story, that particular, that dialogue was painful; at least for today, reminded me of Star Wars Episode II.

We watched clips of Geronimo, Maverick, and Warriors of the Rainbow: Seediq Bale (which after 3 hours of different movies, him summarizing the back story made no difference). Basically we were watching portrayal of Indinas. Geronimo did it with sympathy and savagery (and Robert "GOAT" Duvall); Maverick did it with humor; the last one did it with a japanese perspective and it was pretty cool.

Also, who is better: Daniel Day Lewis or Robert Duvall? I want to say Lewis, but I want to say Duvall as well.
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