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Old 02-19-2013, 08:24 AM   #3061 (permalink)
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Cheers blarg, I'll likely watch that film you suggested when we were discussing Dead Man's Shoes a week or so ago next. The one based around the man coming to grips with revenge taking its toil and turning him into something he previously despised. Based on your analysis though I'll probably wait until my tea has settled .
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:36 AM   #3062 (permalink)
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Cheers blarg, I'll likely watch that film you suggested when we were discussing Dead Man's Shoes a week or so ago next. The one based around the man coming to grips with revenge taking its toil and turning him into something he previously despised. Based on your analysis though I'll probably wait until my tea has settled .
Les sept jours du Talion? Yeah, you'll probably need a sedative to go along with that tea :P Like I said during that great movie discussion we had, it's very much worth it, but be prepared to be shaken to your core by the time it's over. Then again, it all depends on how much the subject matter affects you personally. Me, everytime children are involved in that sort of context, it gets me very emotional. I don't know how the movie will come across in English dub as opposed to French. Guess you'll have to take a leap of faith on this one my friend.
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Yeah that's the one I'm pretty sure. Aye I have no problem with having to rely on dubbing/subtitles, so long as the story and themes are strong and the questions being posed intrigue me I'll be able to overcome a language barrier. The premise you described interests me greatly though. Any film being compared to the overarching theme in Dead Man's Shoes has my interest.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:52 AM   #3064 (permalink)
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Yeah that's the one I'm pretty sure. Aye I have no problem with having to rely on dubbing/subtitles, so long as the story and themes are strong and the questions being posed intrigue me I'll be able to overcome a language barrier. The premise you described interests me greatly though. Any film being compared to the overarching theme in Dead Man's Shoes has my interest.
It shares a similar level of grittiness for sure, and the theme of transcending yourself beyond your perceived limitations in the name of someone you love is definitely resonant.

To me, dubbing can severely hinder the mood of a movie, especially when the voices are asynchronous to the lip movement, or the slang is poorly reinterpreted. Thankfully, this is usually a bitch when it comes to Comedies, so i'm not sweating it here. As for subtitles, I don't mind it, but I dislike the fact that you're prone to miss visual details since most of your focus goes toward reading the test below. My Girlfriend introduced me to the Italian flic "Divorse Italian Style" the other day, the text on that was so miniscule that I felt enticed to whip out the binoculars.
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I'd just like to add that personally I really don't like dubbing. It takes me completely away from the film and looks pretty poor. Subtitles are absolutely fine. I watch a lot of world cinema and never feel bothered by it. I usually have the subtitles up for a lot of english language films anyway.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:58 AM   #3066 (permalink)
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It shares a similar level of grittiness for sure, and the theme of transcending yourself beyond your perceived limitations in the name of someone you love is definitely resonant.

To me, dubbing can severely hinder the mood of a movie, especially when the voices are asynchronous to the lip movement, or the slang is poorly reinterpreted. Thankfully, this is usually a bitch when it comes to Comedies, so i'm not sweating it here. As for subtitles, I don't mind it, but I dislike the fact that you're prone to miss visual details since most of your focus goes toward reading the test below. My Girlfriend introduced me to the Italian flic "Divorse Italian Style" the other day, the text on that was so miniscule that I felt enticed to whip out the binoculars.
Definitely looking forward to it then. Character studies are a style of film I adore so I'll be shocked if I don't find a great appreciation for this film.

Ha, I think my continuous viewing of 80s territories and Lucha has conditioned me into putting up with picture quality and sound hinderances when the work presented is of a good enough quality to make me oblivious/less focused on the visual impairment.
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whoever was responsible for the bullshit dubbing job on my copy of John Woo's THE KILLER deserves to die a graphic vintage John Woo style death.
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I only saw the part where Jesse James got assassinated; so I didn't care for it off that.
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Definitely a great film. It's been a couple years and I really want to see it again. And own it.

I think my favorite western can't ever be anything else but For a Few Dollars More, though it's just complete bias on my part. My stepfather let me see it as a kid and it was the most awesome shit ever. The music clock will forever play in my head. Am I traumatized?
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i know no one cares, but as far as western goes a top will be

1- Rio Bravo
2- Johnny Guitar
3- My Darling Clementine
4- Rancho Notorious
5- Duel in The Sun
6- Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
7- Man of the west
8- Forty guns
9- The man who shot Liberty Valance
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I'd just like to add that personally I really don't like dubbing. It takes me completely away from the film and looks pretty poor. Subtitles are absolutely fine. I watch a lot of world cinema and never feel bothered by it. I usually have the subtitles up for a lot of english language films anyway.
This. My first lenguage is spanish so i'm completely used to them. There are some moments in wich you lose some details because focus but it's a little cost for seeing the move in the way it was intended to be see it.

Dubbing is an aberration if you ask me
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Fuck yes WOOLCOCK you beautiful bastard. I was talking with blarg about it the other day but BOTSW is one of my favourite films since the turn of the decade along with Tree Of Life. You seem like you can appreciate all kinds of cinema so I reckon you should watch that. Another film that certainly won't appeal to a wide audience due to the reasons you stated about Beasts', but if you liked that I'd say give it a go. It's incredibly ambitious and it doesn't have a straight narrative, and it's left completely up to the viewer to pick up on the symbolism, metaphores and messages for themselves. In the same way as Beasts it's a film about childhood at it's heart and it's shown mostly through memories so at times it's very surreal. The themes span to epic proportions though, like, from the creation of earth to religion to what it actually means to be alive to family issues. The contrast in showing the biggest thing imaginable in the creation of the universe and then something as small as the birth of a child and how both are equally important in one way or another is amazing and really powerful. Its also the most visually awesome film I've ever seen, so you'll appreciate that if nothing else. It's a ridiculous piece of work in the best way possible to me. Not many films have left the impression on me this did. Anyway... I could write about it forever.
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