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Had to watch Trading Places for a psychology assignment. I was surprisingly entertained. Eddie Murphy was hilarious. Gained a new level of respect for him as I haven't seen much of his work.

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Trading Places, Coming to America, 48 Hours, Beverly Hills Cop, and Shrek are his best.
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I watched Beverly Hills Cop earlier tonight. I like Trading Places better, but both are great. Murphy in the 80's was unstoppable.

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Jon Hamm is in We Were Soldiers issuing MAD MEL'S orders via radio before anyone knew who the fuck he was so that automatically makes it the greatest Nam movie ever by virtue of having Don Draper in it. Actually Opie from SOA is in it too now that I think of it.

But really its kind of a lame movie which isn't surprising because Chris Klein is in it, but he dies 2/3rds in. Mel was pretty decent in it though, otherwise you aren't missing much.

There is a scene in that movie though, the way its cut with Barry Pepper taking pictures intercut with troops dying and shit that fucking makes me laugh pretty hard though and i'm pretty sure thats not what they were going for.
Opie is also in Saving Private Ryan, he plays the guy who had a grenade go off too close to his head. Vin Deisal's in it too.


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Nathan Fillion, Bryan Cranston and Faraday from Lost.

Hell of a cast
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I've just watched Downfall for the first time (the movie with the Hitler meme in it), fantastic. Bruno Ganz's portrayal of Hitler is fucking amazing.
That film is superb. Totally agree about Bruno Ganz's performance - probably the best portrayal of Hitler ever.
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Great stuff asdf, keep those Carpenter reviews coming

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I've just watched Downfall for the first time (the movie with the Hitler meme in it), fantastic. Bruno Ganz's portrayal of Hitler is fucking amazing.
yep truly excellent film, shame most people only know it from the meme, Im a bit of a WW2 buff and this is one of the best

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Had to watch Trading Places for a psychology assignment. I was surprisingly entertained. Eddie Murphy was hilarious. Gained a new level of respect for him as I haven't seen much of his work.
really good article here charting Murphys career arc, people forget he was almost as big as Michael Jackson in the 80s
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...0/eddie-murphy

Trading Places and BHC are both timeless classics imo, and so quotable

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So is time for another chapter of this John Carpenter's Project brogue to you by me, and i'm grateful for this comments:






Because this time we're going into:




Halloween


This is the first big hit in the office department for the man, and such a hit because is also regarded as the first take into the Slasher genre with Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but the reality is that this two are very different films, in spirit, theme and style.

I'm been talking severly about the big Hawks influence in Carpenter's cinema, this means, people being threatened by evil or unknown forces, wich in Carpenter is also a way to break the moral codes of the people, so his cinema is highly politically incorrect like we see in Assault on Precinct 13, at the end of the day there is no good or bad, just people doing what they think is right for them

And this time there is no difference, the idea is that you have this cold, faceless and dangerous murder that has no reason to kill at all, just murder for fun, for pleasure or for whatever reason you want to. And this murderer stalk people endessly, appear from nowhere and is almost immortal. So who te fuck he is? what are his motivations? and most important who can stop him? And the thing is, we don't know any of the answers and in reality there isn't important to known them.

Michael Myers is this monster forze that threatens people, but in a world like the one we live everyone can be Michael Myers, he is no one and all of us at the same time and that is the reason we saw with his eyes in his first murder (and the most important one), then Carpenter put us out of his eyes and what we saw is a little inoffensive child that had kill his sister without remorse.



So this movie put again this idea of a unstoppable forze against a group of people, but this time the forze is the evil himself, and the evil is just a man, a forze in the body and shape of a man, before we got this idea but from an entire goup of people without face or name, this time we got the name, we got the face, but he seems to be just a void of life. This is the reason why Michael seems to be in everyplace and is almost immortal, because at the end you can't stop the evil. But this is the important idea, again, the evil himself is still just a man, so this is probably the most "realist" movie from Carpenter's Career.

And this realistic approach needs to be psicological, needs to be ascetic and needs to be sober. So Carpenter follow his other influence, the Ford one, while thematically Carpenter seems to be re-reading Hawks constanstly, his filming approach is basically Ford, The Camera is always in the ground, so no stupid fancy shit like cranes or aerial shot to be epic because seems "cool", the camera needs to be at the high of the Characters and never in other place. Putting the camera above the characters will be put yourself about them, try to be omniscent when you're not, we don't know understand nothing about what's happening, just see people get killed. This dissection is what we get from Loomis, he only function seems to explain Michael and the more we listen to Loomis the more we understand that at the end he is not a "he", is a "it", and is also what we get from all the stalk previous from the carnage.

This is another important idea from the movie, every place were the evil has been (Or Michael, is the same) is infected, so he domain that space, and that is why he can appear where he fucking want, that is why at the end Michael dissapear and you see different shots from the house. he is not there like a fisic figure, but he is in all that places, the evil is more strong at the end and there is no place to run.



This seems to be the conclusión for all the Carpenter filmography and probably we will see how he radicalize this idea latter in the 90's so the characters will not take shortcuts, his critic is in the heart and follow the last consecuences and that is why he is so fucking good at what he does and doesn't care about what you think, for him we all are part of the same problem.

Special mention again for the music, an element that is always great in his movies and the photography, wich increase the realistic element and take clearly definition.

Next Movie: Elvis (Tv Film)

Ranking:

1- Assault on Precint 13
2- Halloween
3- Dar Star
This is great. Good work. With all the discussion about Carpenter there seems to be recently on here, thinking I might go on a kick too. Need to see Escape From New York badly.
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So is time for another chapter of this John Carpenter's Project brogue to you by me, and i'm grateful for this comments:






Because this time we're going into:




Halloween


This is the first big hit in the office department for the man, and such a hit because is also regarded as the first take into the Slasher genre with Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but the reality is that this two are very different films, in spirit, theme and style.

I'm been talking severly about the big Hawks influence in Carpenter's cinema, this means, people being threatened by evil or unknown forces, wich in Carpenter is also a way to break the moral codes of the people, so his cinema is highly politically incorrect like we see in Assault on Precinct 13, at the end of the day there is no good or bad, just people doing what they think is right for them

And this time there is no difference, the idea is that you have this cold, faceless and dangerous murder that has no reason to kill at all, just murder for fun, for pleasure or for whatever reason you want to. And this murderer stalk people endessly, appear from nowhere and is almost immortal. So who te fuck he is? what are his motivations? and most important who can stop him? And the thing is, we don't know any of the answers and in reality there isn't important to known them.

Michael Myers is this monster forze that threatens people, but in a world like the one we live everyone can be Michael Myers, he is no one and all of us at the same time and that is the reason we saw with his eyes in his first murder (and the most important one), then Carpenter put us out of his eyes and what we saw is a little inoffensive child that had kill his sister without remorse.



So this movie put again this idea of a unstoppable forze against a group of people, but this time the forze is the evil himself, and the evil is just a man, a forze in the body and shape of a man, before we got this idea but from an entire goup of people without face or name, this time we got the name, we got the face, but he seems to be just a void of life. This is the reason why Michael seems to be in everyplace and is almost immortal, because at the end you can't stop the evil. But this is the important idea, again, the evil himself is still just a man, so this is probably the most "realist" movie from Carpenter's Career.

And this realistic approach needs to be psicological, needs to be ascetic and needs to be sober. So Carpenter follow his other influence, the Ford one, while thematically Carpenter seems to be re-reading Hawks constanstly, his filming approach is basically Ford, The Camera is always in the ground, so no stupid fancy shit like cranes or aerial shot to be epic because seems "cool", the camera needs to be at the high of the Characters and never in other place. Putting the camera above the characters will be put yourself about them, try to be omniscent when you're not, we don't know understand nothing about what's happening, just see people get killed. This dissection is what we get from Loomis, he only function seems to explain Michael and the more we listen to Loomis the more we understand that at the end he is not a "he", is a "it", and is also what we get from all the stalk previous from the carnage.

This is another important idea from the movie, every place were the evil has been (Or Michael, is the same) is infected, so he domain that space, and that is why he can appear where he fucking want, that is why at the end Michael dissapear and you see different shots from the house. he is not there like a fisic figure, but he is in all that places, the evil is more strong at the end and there is no place to run.



This seems to be the conclusión for all the Carpenter filmography and probably we will see how he radicalize this idea latter in the 90's so the characters will not take shortcuts, his critic is in the heart and follow the last consecuences and that is why he is so fucking good at what he does and doesn't care about what you think, for him we all are part of the same problem.

Special mention again for the music, an element that is always great in his movies and the photography, wich increase the realistic element and take clearly definition.

Next Movie: Elvis (Tv Film)

Ranking:

1- Assault on Precint 13
2- Halloween
3- Dar Star

Second that, man. You're on a phenomenal roll with these Carpenter movie overviews. Looking forward to reading more.

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Great stuff asdf, keep those Carpenter reviews coming



yep truly excellent film, shame most people only know it from the meme, Im a bit of a WW2 buff and this is one of the best



really good article here charting Murphys career arc, people forget he was almost as big as Michael Jackson in the 80s
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...0/eddie-murphy

Trading Places and BHC are both timeless classics imo, and so quotable

"look man, I aint fallin for no banana in no tailpipe"
Thanks man it was great to read about Eddie's career

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