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post #141 of 252 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 09:38 PM
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In first place, why is the reason at a structurally or formal level for the movie being black and white? nothing. just because it's looks more beautiful and "serious", and to introduce a character in color. One of the bad things in movies is pointing at you what to look in a scene, making the spectator brainless and incapable of deciding what is important in a image, and this is specially worse in this case when the director is trying so hard of imposing a "serious" posture and a "beautiful moral lesson" at pointing.

Also, has all the flaws of the Spielberg filmography, ridicously good characters who always do the good thing and doesn't have any ambiguity making the moral of the stories enterely idiotic and affected. This is specially bad in the case of a so important matter like the Holocaust.

The work of Spielberg with the material he has doesn't even came close of others like Resnais's "Nuit et Broulliard" or Lanzmann's "Shoa"
Fully agreed. Schindler's List is emotional manipulation of the highest calibre. Respect to the guy for helping to make students and young people realise the importance of a tragic historic event but the film itself handles the majority of the scenes in a pathetically, simplistic manner.

Jaws, Raiders, Duel, Jurassic Park, Minority Report are all immense though. Spielberg plus big budget and high concept usually equals greatness.

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I hate the most of Spielberg's movies. He's so fucking pretentious it's unbearable. Fuck him and all those Hollywood "big shots".

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Fully agreed. Schindler's List is emotional manipulation of the highest calibre. Respect to the guy for helping to make students and young people realise the importance of a tragic historic event but the film itself handles the majority of the scenes in a pathetically, simplistic manner.

Jaws, Raiders, Duel, Jurassic Park, Minority Report are all immense though. Spielberg plus big budget and high concept usually equals greatness.
The only part of Schindler's List I didn't like was the very end (the placing rocks on the grave scene). I didn't find it too overly sentimental up until that bit like a lot of his movies tend to be. Even then it wasn't as bad as the final scene in SPR which was just cringe worthy, and actually ruined the majority of the movie for me.
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There are people who believes, one bad shot (or inmoral shot in the spielberg case) can completely destroy a film.

There is a really famous (and controversial) article about this, written by Rivette:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/rivette/ok/abjection.html



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Season 9 of Scrubs was not all that bad. IMO, the show could've gone on forever with a revolving door of cast members as long as you had some connection between the new and previous generation. For example, we could've watched the med students of Season 9 become residents, then attendings, and then have a new generation of med students/interns show up and the process just repeats itself every few years.
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The only part of Schindler's List I didn't like was the very end (the placing rocks on the grave scene). I didn't find it too overly sentimental up until that bit like a lot of his movies tend to be. Even then it wasn't as bad as the final scene in SPR which was just cringe worthy, and actually ruined the majority of the movie for me.
Yeah that scene was weak but in general but I thought the overall representation was appalling. Aside from Schindler and his confidant, the film portrayed everyone as historical footnotes divided into two with "nasty people" and "innocent people" without any insight into how this horrific event had forced certain types of behaviour. I also don't see anything artistic in putting a camera close up to a scared person's face, playing some sad music and basically giving the audience a free ride into garnering mass sympathy.
In short, I did not find the film intellectually stimulating which is what I think a film about a complex event should strive for.

What is SPR btw?
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Fight Club is severely overrated.

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Yeah that scene was weak but in general but I thought the overall representation was appalling. Aside from Schindler and his confidant, the film portrayed everyone as historical footnotes divided into two with "nasty people" and "innocent people" without any insight into how this horrific event had forced certain types of behaviour. I also don't see anything artistic in putting a camera close up to a scared person's face, playing some sad music and basically giving the audience a free ride into garnering mass sympathy.
In short, I did not find the film intellectually stimulating which is what I think a film about a complex event should strive for.

What is SPR btw?
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Hey thanks for noticing my sig! Fight Club is overrated though. Something can be overrated and good at the same time. I like it a lot, but it's overrated.

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