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dxbender · 09-20-2012, 12:26 AM

lol, I'd laugh if each HGs bag only had 1 persons key in it(not put there by the HG,but by producers lol), so when they put the key in the box, it ends up being forced to be the only key in the bag

**Genesis 1.0** · 09-20-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by IMPULSE

past houseguests have said no one decides their vote on finale night. they're pretty much locked in. shane didn't even go to jury. he was in a hotel for a week.

jenn admitted she wanted someone to win who never won before. brit said dan played the best game and owned the house, but she voted for her friend again. frank is just bitter, and shane looks deflated. joe just voted for the person w/ the less blood.

dan has to be kicking himself for not taking that S/D and gamble.

it's annoying how they all praise him and vote for ian. it's like why is the runner up the focus over the winner. the cast will feel stupid when they watched how hard dan played them and how ian fell into this win.

Janelle & the rest of the cast who watched echoed my sentiments that it would be ludicrous if Dan didn't win. The man played the best game.

KiNgoFKiNgS23 · 09-20-2012, 12:58 AM

janelle said it best it's a travesty that dan didn't win. bunch of pussies in the jury. why this show pisses me off now. atleast he cemented his legacy as arguably the GOAT.

**Genesis 1.0** · 09-20-2012, 01:44 AM

Yeah, guy played everyone like a damn fiddle & yet, Impulse was right, they voted like children throwing tantrums. If there was anyone that legit loved strategy, it would have gone to Dan.

On the upside, guy just pulled in $50,000 over Shane's whining corpse.

**Quasi Juice** · 09-20-2012, 05:10 AM

Dan played the best game, but I don't mind Ian winning, like the kid. The same type of thing happened during Survivor HvV (all stars season). One played an amazing game, ruthless too and great in challenges but wasn't liked, one was liked but didn't do anything significant to get to the end and won. The jury always has a tainted view.

Wrestlinfan35 · 09-20-2012, 09:37 AM

Ian deserved the win. His speech absolutely crushed Dan's speech, he was too apologetic in his. Just screamed blatant ass-kissing. People need to remember, social game is just as important as strategic. Dan screwed over the jury, and that's a part of the game. He did not have a good social game, otherwise the vote wouldn't have been 6-1. Ian was on top last night, great speeches and answers.

Nonetheless, it was the perfect final two. Not often we see that.

dxbender · 09-20-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Quasi Juice

Dan played the best game, but I don't mind Ian winning, like the kid. The same type of thing happened during Survivor HvV (all stars season). One played an amazing game, ruthless too and great in challenges but wasn't liked, one was liked but didn't do anything significant to get to the end and won. The jury always has a tainted view.

It wasn't just HvV, it was also in Samoa(that was easily the most bitter jury in Survivor history)

#Mark · 09-20-2012, 10:32 AM

Really makes me question what the perception of Ian is inside the house. Dan could have easily beaten Danielle/Shane, but I think he legit thought he couldn't have. Surely if he had the foresight he would have taken that gamble.

Really disgusted with the jury. Voted with hard feeling instead of their minds.

**Silent KEEL** · 09-20-2012, 11:50 AM

According to Britney's interview with Jeff, the rest of the jurors were never going to vote for Dan, no matter who he was against.

I hope they never do returnees with new players, either all vets or all new players, otherwise the jury will always suck.

**IMPULSE** · 09-20-2012, 12:00 PM

a returning player can win if they never won before. but all the newbies said they wanted someone new to win, what's frustrating is that they all admit dan played the best game. if you voted for ian say he played a better game, don't admit someone played well then fuck them over.

@ wrestlingfan past jurors have admitted the jury speech means nothing. before season 11 it meant something, but the housguests make up their mind in jury. the current format is just for show. they also hinted ian getting to the end was winning.

ian is an okay winner. he was outplayed in the context of the game. his competition wins were nice, but he literally has no clue as to what went down in the house. what annoys me is the precedent that this sets, which is no one will want to play the manipulative, backstabbing game. we'll also probably won't see another two time winner and dan's edit has shot game and i think he's done w/ big brother.