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post #261 of 305 (permalink) Old 09-19-2012, 02:17 AM
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frank and jenn handling of the funeral and the ammo they had on dan and the way they used it was the largest fail of the season. at least joe suspect the funeral was fake, britney was more focused on why dan was voting to keep a dead person, shane doesn't know the game, and ian is really bad at strategy. frank and jenn honestly thought the rift was real and you can't excuse that.

joe actually told a lie to shane that explained what dan did to get off the block. shane just ignored it and he isn't good at this game outside of competitions and his phenomenal ability to lie and escape blame.

i think the DR convinced dan that he doesn't have the vote against dani. he's been acting weird and i don't know where his head is at. the dr wants to know and i think that's why he's mad at them. i think they want a telling edit about who will be the F2.

if dan loses it'll be b/c of two things the other two in the final three did that weren't game moves just roadblocks. dani stopping him from cutting shane at the double eviction hurt him badly. dan would probably be in the final 3 w/ jenn. the funny thing is that ian wouldn't have jury speech if the rest of the quack pack didn't let him get away w/ thinking he formed that group, which existed before him.

every cast w/ vets returning sucks or the interesting players get taken out early.
My disagreement on the level of involvement production has with the actual interactions within the House is well documented, so I'll float over the bulk of this but I think the fact that Dani's in the Final 3 just increases Dan's chances of winning it all. Hell, considering how recently he won it compared with a Jordan, I don't see any real basis for him not duplicating the feat. The consistent model goes to the jury awarding better gameplay & neither Ian or Dani have played a better game. For Ian to be so intelligent, he played this game terribly following the midway point. I still think it's shocking that being a fan finally cost someone a game instead of aiding it.

Like I said a few pages back, stick in a totally fresh crew of HGs selected for their ability to get ratings: drama tendencies, cut throat, slimy, & at least one angry guy. Pick people that don't have a cushy life, that actually need the money & dispense with the returning HGs & the abundance of twists.

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um. the new jury format screws the final two. the format has changed since season 10. the 90 second speech and scripted jury questions won't help dan w/ the jury over. ian will win over dan. b/c the jury is bitter and their mind is made up.

shane, brit, joe, and ash will vote for ian. frank will probably vote for him and i only see dan getting dani or jenn vote.

dan won't win this game. dani incident w/ shane screwed his end game. ian's uneasiness w/ eliminating frank scared dan out giving frank a vote to force a tie.

the pandora box twist last year and the following pov was blatant interference. you also have past houseguests openly complaining about interference and your coaches calling you out for rigging and interfering w/ their games on the feeds isn't a good look.

a lot of funny stuff has happened after DR's this year and the players are more revealing about them then in the past.

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They're doing & saying whatever's necessary to get a little publicity, sour grapes, etc.

There's no way you can take the words of dissenters & ignore the former Guests who say they were never interfered with.



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i'm basing my comments on the players of this year. the players in the house are complaining about their dr's this year and saying it's messing w/ this game. dan flipped production off after the dan/dani mic debacle.

ian wins this game unless dan falls into winning the HOH, which he doesn't want to do apparently. unless he's misting production. ian could fail his speech and still win and there's a high chance of him failing if dan goes before him and sweeps the rug from under him.

if dan mists production and wins and takes dani. his legacy can't be fucked w/ even though i'll feel slightly bad for ian if he doesn't get AC.

the whole interference crap didn't even start until AG was in charge which was season 8.

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i'm basing my comments on the players of this year. the players in the house are complaining about their dr's this year and saying it's messing w/ this game. dan flipped production off after the dan/dani mic debacle.

ian wins this game unless dan falls into winning the HOH, which he doesn't want to do apparently. unless he's misting production. ian could fail his speech and still win and there's a high chance of him failing if dan goes before him and sweeps the rug from under him.

if dan mists production and wins and takes dani. his legacy can't be fucked w/ even though i'll feel slightly bad for ian if he doesn't get AC.

the whole interference crap didn't even start until AG was in charge which was season 8.
Allison's a great mind, she's had a hand in some of the most exciting angles / seasons but have you ever seen an interview with her or anything in print? Huge ego, I mean huge.

As to why people come out of the DR upset, it's where they have to break down their strategy to production & from whatever edited fragments survive, to America. Production tends to ask VERY pointed questions regarding that strategy & as some people have said, have been asked "Don't you think that'll make you look like a scumbag" & things along those lines.

Asking too many questions that could impinge on someone's honor or portraying them in a certain light would piss anyone off under those circumstances.



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my problem w/ production is that there tampering is present. like you can identify how they mess w/ the game and i think they should be involved less. if a player can't get to point a to point b by themselves then production shouldn't help them, and they pick and choose who they shed light to.

there was a fight tonight that was covered in a cbs clip. it was a strategic stunt of a fight, in the aftermath dani and dan discuss the effect of the fight and crap. ian is in the shower, disturbed and clueless. dan and dani are in skid row talking and production goes please reattach your microphone.

both dan and dani were shocked b/c his mic was on and that alerted ian that dan and dani were at least talking to each other shortly after the fight. dan got mad and flipped them off. he had a dr shortly after and he's changed his end game tune ever since that incident.

the dr scumbagged dan w/ their edit. i think some of them were pissed that he fooled them about golden boy and they went full out villain. i like my edits to be a bit more subtle b/c dan can't pull of the villain role.

edit: i have mixed feelings about ian winning this. i think he wins 5-2 unless dan misted everyone and wins to take dani. he'll have to defend his win for a while and the jury will get labeled bitter and the producers will be happy. frank will get mad. the jury format needs to change.

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Dan is legit insane.
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wow. i thought i would take ian's win better, but i can't.

this is why i hate the new jury format. the votes were already set, past houseguests have confirmed this and the questions are scripted, which past houseguests have confirmed. you can't change anyone vote and the jury is separated days before the finale.

the old format worked better as people got to present their case and could actually sway votes. i guess i have something against clueless winners even though i'm happy for him.
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wow. i thought i would take ian's win better, but i can't.

this is why i hate the new jury format. the votes were already set, past houseguests have confirmed this and the questions are scripted, which past houseguests have confirmed. you can't change anyone vote and the jury is separated days before the finale.

the old format worked better as people got to present their case and could actually sway votes. i guess i have something against clueless winners even though i'm happy for him.
Ya, Dan should have won.

Last time he was in finals, it was old jury format(that was last season they used that format). Even the jury said while Dan was talking, that he was a great talker. They should go back to the non live jury questions. So then they can ask both finalists questions, both can answer, and there's no 5-10 min time limit for the entire segment.

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past houseguests have said no one decides their vote on finale night. they're pretty much locked in. shane didn't even go to jury. he was in a hotel for a week.

jenn admitted she wanted someone to win who never won before. brit said dan played the best game and owned the house, but she voted for her friend again. frank is just bitter, and shane looks deflated. joe just voted for the person w/ the less blood.

dan has to be kicking himself for not taking that S/D and gamble.

it's annoying how they all praise him and vote for ian. it's like why is the runner up the focus over the winner. the cast will feel stupid when they watched how hard dan played them and how ian fell into this win.
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