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Old 09-01-2012, 06:52 PM   #191 (permalink)
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dan won pov. looks like frank is out of here. if he saves anybody it would be jenn which frank suggested, but he also suggested throwing it to dan. he's so gullible and people thought he had a good social game.



frank just told jenn he discussed throwing it, but he didn't. he just straight up loss to someone who was throwing comps all summer and someone claimed he was a better player than.

ian and dan supposedly have final two. but if i was ian i would be scared b/c we're at the point where dan started winning comps and he has the eviction of brit and possibly frank on his resume.

frank honestly needs boogie or dr help. he's so clueless, i knew he was bad at game awareness but this is worse than shane always asking to be a pawn. he honestly thinks he has the votes against joe and dan has gotten jenn to be okay w/a frank boot. going into the DE dan only has to worry about a joe HOH.

brit fans are going to be mad if they clue frank in after letting brit be clueless about dani.

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Old 09-01-2012, 10:26 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Like I said, Frank's a raging bull & without Boogie as his handler, he's going to be screwed sooner rather than later.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:05 PM   #193 (permalink)
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boogie didn't help frank. boogie is part of the reason no one really likes him. boogie's reads on the house were just as bad as frank's reads. he did save frank, it's kind of funny how the 2 times frank failed to keep himself off the block someone else ends up saving him. joe saved him week 1 w/ his lies and boogie's secret six or the avengers as he sold it pitch, janelle dug her grave in that convo by protecting a team who wanted nothing to do w/ her.
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Impulse, your views on the game are just terribly slanted at times. Boogie clearly provided the brains, the directive for the force of competitive nature that is Frank. He forged an alliance around him in order to insulate the heat Frank tends to generate due to his nonexistent tact or people skills. He learned from Will, who played the role far more masterfully but Mike did his best.
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:30 AM   #195 (permalink)
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my views aren't slanted. the only reason why frank was ever targeted was b/c boogie was his coach and frank gave out empty threats of going after the coaches if they came into the game.

boogie didn't help frank's game b/c frank went from not wanting to play w/ boogie or his style to spending all day with boogie. the two spent all their time together for the most part and were an inseparable unit.

i can't give boogie props for being a mastermind b/c he was effectively blindsided twice. he couldn't figure out that wil was bullshitting him or that he told ian who his targets were, well he couldn't even remember that which was bad.

the diversity alliance was created by joe and frank boogie had no hand in it. boogie mastermind his own destruction by alienating his team in favor of one player. the only mastermind move boogie made was the secret six.

so he makes the move and i guess you can say he saved dan's tail. but he goes out and tries for 10k instead of safety or HOH, what mastermind does that? if he was the mastermind he would've went for the safety at the very least so that him and frank couldn't have been put up together.

boogie was outplayed by brit. who is far from a mastermind. his best move was engineering the janelle backdoor, which he fell into. janelle caused her own downfall by scarring dani a week earlier and brit suggested mike go w/ that pitch and even then it took jani blindly defending her players to put a nail in her coffin.

boogie didn't do anything impressive this season he got outplayed badly. providing the brains in froogie isn't an accomplishment, which is what i'm getting at.
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Ian = Best BB player this season. He and Dan would make the perfect final 2 right now.

Frank was a clueless dumbass by not getting Dan out when it was his mission to do so. He deserved to leave tonight.
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Ian = Best BB player this season. He and Dan would make the perfect final 2 right now.

Frank was a clueless dumbass by not getting Dan out when it was his mission to do so. He deserved to leave tonight.
Looking back on it, he had no choice. If he got Dan out, it'd be the same Quack Pack, but with Brittney instead of Dan. Though you could argue that Frank might have won the veto had Brittney been there over Dan.
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Looking back on it, he had no choice. If he got Dan out, it'd be the same Quack Pack, but with Brittney instead of Dan. Though you could argue that Frank might have won the veto had Brittney been there over Dan.
I disagree. There was a good chance Ian would've played a bit more with Frank had he not taken Dan off and replaced him with Britney. Ian lashed out, and that obviously had a little bit to do with Frank being his target. Simple, he trusted Dan because he bought his crap. He's not good at this game. Competition wise, he's amazing however. But it's his own fault that he's out right now. He got played big time.
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I don't know, I think Frank was fucked either way. I'm sure we'll see him again if there's an all stars, he dominated almost every competition, not only physical ones.

For a second I thought Dan was going to put Shane up when he said you need to make tough calls in this game, shame he didn't. Somehow everyone has forgotten about Shane, it's like he's constantly off limits. Will be interesting to see who wins HOH next.
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Impulse, your views on the game are just terribly slanted at times. Boogie clearly provided the brains, the directive for the force of competitive nature that is Frank. He forged an alliance around him in order to insulate the heat Frank tends to generate due to his nonexistent tact or people skills. He learned from Will, who played the role far more masterfully but Mike did his best.
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my views aren't slanted. the only reason why frank was ever targeted was b/c boogie was his coach and frank gave out empty threats of going after the coaches if they came into the game.

boogie didn't help frank's game b/c frank went from not wanting to play w/ boogie or his style to spending all day with boogie. the two spent all their time together for the most part and were an inseparable unit.

i can't give boogie props for being a mastermind b/c he was effectively blindsided twice. he couldn't figure out that wil was bullshitting him or that he told ian who his targets were, well he couldn't even remember that which was bad.

the diversity alliance was created by joe and frank boogie had no hand in it. boogie mastermind his own destruction by alienating his team in favor of one player. the only mastermind move boogie made was the secret six.

so he makes the move and i guess you can say he saved dan's tail. but he goes out and tries for 10k instead of safety or HOH, what mastermind does that? if he was the mastermind he would've went for the safety at the very least so that him and frank couldn't have been put up together.

boogie was outplayed by brit. who is far from a mastermind. his best move was engineering the janelle backdoor, which he fell into. janelle caused her own downfall by scarring dani a week earlier and brit suggested mike go w/ that pitch and even then it took jani blindly defending her players to put a nail in her coffin.

boogie didn't do anything impressive this season he got outplayed badly. providing the brains in froogie isn't an accomplishment, which is what i'm getting at.
Now where, pray tell, did I cal Mike Boogie a MASTERMIND? Hell, I said he was a terribly light version of Dr. Will, I said he was doing 'The best he could'. Heh, I appreciate the candor, but that long soul clearing riff did absolutely nothing to dissuade me from my point.

Frank was the muscle, the talent. Mike Boogie was the puppeteer pulling Frank's strings. The fact that you point out the fact that Frank went from opposed to loyal disciple just speaks to my point. Mike was masterful in making a Muscular Chill Town Clone. Right up to the point where he was evicted, Frank was STILL singing Boogie's praises, ABOVE the HGs still there waiting to vote.

Boogie was clearly the brains, whether or not he was missing a few thousand cells is a totally different argument.
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