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Old 07-25-2012, 10:33 PM   #731 (permalink)
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I really didn't think Bruce Wayne would die, but I didn't need to be assured of that in the first half hour of the film by the director.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:48 PM   #732 (permalink)
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Schlock. Drivel.

1. Selina Kyle/Catwoman. HATE this. Bane is an international, criminal GENIUS in the employ of The League of Shadows. You mean to tell me he couldn't have been bankrupted that way?

2. Bane CRYING?! You can't humanize a guy like that. The fact that he is in most, if not all, aspects a monster is what makes him fun.

3. Knowing the comics did make the Talia and "My name's Robin" stuff a little hokey. Just a ding, not a knock.

4. Fuck off with people saying the football stadium demolition was cool. It was 80s made for TV movie AWFUL and took a dump all over the supposed "dark" and "gritty" world.

5. Between Batman talking like Voicebox-Kane and Bane BEING Voicebox-Kane I was missing at least 30 percent of the dialogue.

6. Get a fuckin' editor. The Catwoman crap was not needed. I'm sick of all these superhero movies being 2 and a half hours long. Reign yourselves in, you indulgent pricks. This isn't Gods and Generals here. Supposedly the full cut of this movie is 268 minutes/4 hours and 28 minutes. They cut a full two HOURS and the movie was still too long! CHRIST!

7. HAN ZIMMER IS A FUCKING CUNT! THE SOUNDTRACK ISN'T THE STAR MOTHERFUCKER! LAY OFF THE DRUMS I'M TRYING TO HEAR BATMAN AND BANE! FUCK!

That being said I still really liked it. 3.5/4 out of 5 territory. I can see it being like Batman Begins and growing on me in a few years and getting another half star. I'd still rather see the 1989 Keaton and Nicholson Batman or The Dark Knight, though.

Oh, and you know those rumors of Paul Giammatti as Penguin and Leonardo DiCapro as Riddler? Pretty, pretty please do that. I'm beggin' ya. That would rule.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:34 PM   #733 (permalink)
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I'm quite curious how people that aren't massive Batman comic fans or read internet theories reacted. It's all well and good for us that are familiar to say, "Obviously Miranda is Talia, and JGL is Robin, and Bane breaks his back". But how would you feel with Miranda's turn at the end if you never knew Ra's has a daughter? Or that you only know Robin as a little guy and sidekick? If you weren't trying to piece things together before the movie even started, I imagine there would be less to bitch about.

Also, it's not really fair to compare TDK to TDKR. One is a continuation movie that while it could have ended there, it obviously wasn't. There was no need at all to tie up loose ends, wrap up storylines, or bring a finality to the setting itself. It's the same reason why in most trilogies, part 2 is regarded as usually the best of the three. You can concentrate entirely on story, and not on origin or finale.

And all the "obvious twists" that we saw coming, if they didn't do any of those, then people would bitch about that too. There's absolutely no way to please a mass audience when they focus on details, and not on the enjoyment in general.
I thought all the plot twists at the end were obvious because the movie followed a shit load of cliches. I probably would have made all the same connections other than Talia being Ra's daughter without knowledge of the comic books and honestly I don't know a whole hell of a lot about Batman other than the basics ( I did watch Batman TAS a lot though so most of my knowledge of the Batverse is from that show). I was a Marvel fan when I was collecting comics.

Despite all my griping I still enjoyed the movie overall. I just don't think its as good as Begins or TDK and it certainly isn't the greatest movie ever. Hell isn't even Nolan's best movie, none of the Batman movies are.
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It fucking blows my mind seeing current day Hardy and how fucking skinny that dude was in Band of Brothers (hes the guy fucking the german bitch in the beginning episode 9).
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Yeah lol. Thats nuts.

I still need to fucking see Bronson.
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I really didn't think Bruce Wayne would die, but I didn't need to be assured of that in the first half hour of the film by the director.
17 minutes to be exact.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:25 AM   #739 (permalink)
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I'm quite curious how people that aren't massive Batman comic fans or read internet theories reacted. It's all well and good for us that are familiar to say, "Obviously Miranda is Talia, and JGL is Robin, and Bane breaks his back". But how would you feel with Miranda's turn at the end if you never knew Ra's has a daughter? Or that you only know Robin as a little guy and sidekick? If you weren't trying to piece things together before the movie even started, I imagine there would be less to bitch about.
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I thought all the plot twists at the end were obvious because the movie followed a shit load of cliches. I probably would have made all the same connections other than Talia being Ra's daughter without knowledge of the comic books and honestly I don't know a whole hell of a lot about Batman other than the basics ( I did watch Batman TAS a lot though so most of my knowledge of the Batverse is from that show). I was a Marvel fan when I was collecting comics.
^^ that. i'm not a comic book fan at all, but i knew the talia twist was coming purely b/c it was done in a very formulaic way. I also only know Robin as stereotypically being 'a little guy' but i still saw that twist coming as well. I wasn't sure if they were going to straight up call him Robin at the end or if he was just going to be in that Robin-esque role with it going unmentioned. I didn't know that Bane was going to break his back, but again if you have the main villain and the hero character fighting in the middle of the movie then the bad guy will come out on top. Thats how it always goes in movies.

I have no idea how anyone can't understand what Bane/Batman were saying but then again i am never surprised when an american says something like that. You guys stick subtitles on people even when they are speaking English so to have 2 voices that are a little distorted must be torture for you
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The Bane/Batman dialogue was easy for me to understand with the few exceptions where music was played over it for whatever stupid reason. How could that be missed in editing, btw?
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