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Old 07-21-2012, 03:17 PM   #501 (permalink)
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I thought Caine and Oldham did great with their emotions in this film. Like with Gordon's scene with Blake while he's sitting on the couch. Or Gordon and Batman's final conversation.

Such good acting. I felt like they really took it up a notch compared to BB and TDK.
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I thought Caine and Oldham did great with their emotions in this film. Like with Gordon's scene with Blake while he's sitting on the couch. Or Gordon and Batman's final conversation.

Such good acting. I felt like they really took it up a notch compared to BB and TDK.
Totally agree. This film is filled with moving scenes.
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Default Re: Hope is lost, faith is broken...The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th, 2012 (SPOILERS

It's been a two days since I've seen it opening midnight show, I've had time to think it over and read what other people's thoughts and have decided to give my opinion.

The anticipation going into this film was HUGE and that is an understatement, The Dark Knight is easily my favourite film of all time and a lot of that has to do with Ledger's performance. I had trust in Nolan that he wouldn't pump out a third film for the hell of it to make money if he didn't have a story to tell *cough* Michael Bay *cough* so when the casting started for this and I found out Bane and Catwoman where in this I was a little hesitant because I wouldn't have thought Nolan would try those characters. The rumours of Marion Cotillard character being Talia and Joseph Gordon-Levitt being Robin didn't help either as when you have too many main characters they begin to get lost in the shuffle, but Nolan proved me wrong and balanced them all out masterfully.

This film had a lot of hype to live up to and in my eyes it met and exceeded expectations, especially being the third film in the trilogy, as they usually tend to suck.

The main complaint that I heard about this film was Talia and how she took Bane's backstory away and kind of took away from his badassness in a way as he was the child born in hell, the only person to escape the pit, and how he was too extreme for the League of Shadows. She didn't really serve a purpose in the end and the film would have been better without that twist.

Now going into the film I was telling all my friends that Nolan was gonna kill off Bruce Wayne and that John Blake played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt was going to the take the Batman reigns. It was the line in the previews when speaking to Catwoman where Batman said "I haven't given them everything, not yet" when speaking about Gotham that I knew he was going to give his life to save Gotham. When he went over the ocean with the bomb and it went off you heard a collective gasp in my theatre, and that scene where Alfred was standing over Bruce's grave apologizing to the graves of Bruce's parents was the most griping part of the entire film. Which was why I was a little disappointed when they showed Bruce alive with Selina in that cafe presumably after using the device to erase any trace of them. You could have done the same scene with Alfred in the cafe smiling at someone seated at the table in front of him without actually showing Bruce, that way no one knows for sure. This was something Nolan did in Inception, you didn't know whether he was still dreaming or it was reality in the end, and that's the way I believe he should have left Bruce's character, up in the air.

John Blake's character was incredible and Joseph Gordon Levitt's performance in the film was my favourite. I had a gut feeling they were going to have him somehow end up becoming Batman, but when he revealed his actual full name as Robin John Blake, I was actually taken back, the best surprise in the entire film, that scene received a huge ovation from the audience.

I had my reservations about Catwoman, which isn't a name that is ever uttered in the film, but it's assumed that's who she is. Anne Hathaway completely blew me away and showed that character not only deserved to be in the film, but she was needed for Bruce to move on from Rachel which was the reason he stepped away as Batman for 8 years.

Alfred really wasn't in this film for long but left lasting impressions. The scene between Bruce and Alfred where Alfred begs Bruce not to do this not to become Batman again and that he won't stand and watch him die was a tear jerker among many people in the theatre. And as I discussed before the funeral scene again was just as emotionally griping kudos to Michael Caine for a wonderful performance as Alfred in this trilogy.

Gary Oldman did a spectacular job as always as Gordan. The scene where Gordan was watching Bane read his letter out revealing Dent as a villian not a hero and his interaction with Blake in the apartment were incredible. Batman revealing that he was Bruce Wayne was also amazing, I thought Batman the way he revealed he was Bruce was better then the way Batman revealed it to Rachel in Batman Begins.

As for the the minor characters, Fox, Ras Al Ghul, Talia, Scarecrow, the two men in the pit/prison with Bruce all did wonderful jobs. Scarecrows role as judge in that court was hilarious "Death....BY EXILE!!" which had me wonder what Joker's role would have been in this film if Ledger hadn't died, he may have been the "Judge" during those scenes.

As for Bane, he had huge shoes to fill as the villain that followed Ledger's Joker. Bane in his previous Batman film, Batman & Robin had just been a lackey, in this film he became one of Batman's greatest rival. The way they contrasted Bane & Bruce/Batman was amazing. Bruce born to wealth, Bane born in hell, both grew up without a father/mother, Bruce fell down a well into darkness, Bane climbed out of the Pit towards the light. Bane in this film almost became Batman's greatest villain even surpassing Joker, but the reveal that it wasn't him, but Talia that had gone through that took a lot away from Bane.

Overall this film was everything early reviews said it was, a masterpiece. I gave Batman Begins a 9/10, I gave the Dark Knight a 10/10, I would give Dark Knight Rises a 9.5/10. All in all Nolan gave us the greatest trilogy in film history and redefined comic book films and that is something to applaud. In my opinion Christopher Nolan is the greatest director/writer/producer of our generation.
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Default Re: Hope is lost, faith is broken...The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th, 2012 (SPOILERS

Now that I think about TwoFace would have been perfect as the judge instead of Crane. Still upset he decided to kill Harvey Dent in DK.

I didnt like how The Bat looked though. Felt like I was watching some Alien invasion movie. It just looked weird to me. I loved the chase scene where they literally let Bane go and you could see basically every cop in Gotham chasing him.


Did I see correctly that Nolan was the one doing The Man of Steel. If he makes that a great film then I would have to say he is the greatest of our generation. This series has been amazing for sure but only because he changed alot from what was in the comics. I remember reading on comicvine a movie blackwidow vs movie Batman and Widow easily wins judging from ppls votes and opinions. Batman is one of the greatest martial artists but the whole series watching him fight I just dont feel that way. Nolan made Batman realistic. Avengers is a comic movie while the Batman films dont feel like it. Thats why I think they would need a reboot if they plan on making a Justice League movie. This series was all about gadgets, guns and fighting and no suoernatural aspects.

I would give the movie a 8.5/10 just because I felt Batman was way to forgiving to Selina after she betrayed.him like that and how they ruined Bane in the end. He went from badass to nothing in a matter of moments. Why did Nolan need to make Talia the one born and escaping the prison?
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Default Re: Hope is lost, faith is broken...The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th, 2012 (SPOILERS

Was Bane really killed after the Cat woman explosion? Maybe he was knocked out or severely injured. The scene happened so fast.
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He died.
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Default Re: Hope is lost, faith is broken...The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th, 2012 (SPOILERS

I don't know how your survive getting shot and blown into a concrete wall by weapons that were just used to take down a pile of rubble.

And it is bizarre how anti-climatic and rushed it was. That description I made sounds awesome, and I don't mind Catwoman being the one to kill him, but it felt like Bane got tossed to the side in favor of Talia and I didn't like it at all.
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Default Re: Hope is lost, faith is broken...The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th, 2012 (SPOILERS

Although Bane was punching holes in concrete walls with ease before he got blasted, but yeah the scene happened so fast that I was a bit bothered and hoped he would have survived.
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I forgot to ask this, but was anybody else looking for TNA Star "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero? He apparently had a small role in the movie and I was looking for him in every crowd. I thought I spotted him in the riot at the end, but I wasn't sure.
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Default Re: Hope is lost, faith is broken...The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th, 2012 (SPOILERS

Yeah I asked that yesterday. Geard during impact from a poster he had a minor role. watched the movie and tried to keep an eye for him but never saw him. Would have guessed during the football game but didnt notice him.
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