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Old 11-13-2012, 01:07 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Fucking beauty of a film. Really had the vibe of one of the old bond movies with the adventure and Bardem was amazing.

Couldn't help but draw the comparison to Nolan's Batman while watching the movie. Bond is worn down, thought to be dead, comes back to save his city etc.

Bravo.

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you're not the only one who thinks that. It was obvious (to me)when he gets captured that's what he was planning all along.

also, I disagree that it was like the older films, again a lot of people are saying that. It had nostalgic throw backs (martini, DB5, Q, M...) but the actual plot and flow of the movie felt very different, in a great way mind you. It was such a personal attack on Bond, something not done since OHMSS (for like 10 seconds of the movie). It wasn't just a mission for Bond to complete, simply killing the bad guy wouldn't solve his problem; something completely contrast to many other Bond movies.
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you're not the only one who thinks that. It was obvious (to me)when he gets captured that's what he was planning all along.

also, I disagree that it was like the older films, again a lot of people are saying that. It had nostalgic throw backs (martini, DB5, Q, M...) but the actual plot and flow of the movie felt very different, in a great way mind you. It was such a personal attack on Bond, something not done since OHMSS (for like 10 seconds of the movie). It wasn't just a mission for Bond to complete, simply killing the bad guy wouldn't solve his problem; something completely contrast to many other Bond movies.
It wasn't the story that gave me the old school vibe as much as it was the locations and action scenes. Running on the rooftops of Istanbul, the scenes on the beach, Rauls fucking badass island lair, the Skyfall mansion. There was alot of adventure in the film. Something the films with Brosnan severely lacked IMO.
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I might go watch it tomorrow, although I'm not really a James Bond fan and don't think I've ever seen one all the way through.
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Silva being so over the top was awesome

Classic bond villain, with a twist

It was action packed and serious, but still fun with a quirky twist. As it should be
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It was action packed and serious, but still fun with a quirky twist. As it should be
That, to me, was why it felt so much more like a classic Bond film compared to Quantum of Solace and Casino Royal. It was "serious" without being too serious, had some goofy moments as well as a somewhat over-the-top villain and a few cheesy-humor deaths. Quantum and Casino were enjoyable films but they took themselves way too seriously I felt.
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I loved the movie but...I wish they didn't draw so much from TDKR. Some comparisons include:

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Hero is "broken" and must recover
Reveal of iconic character at the end (Robin and Moneypenny)
Hero goes back 'home' for the final battle (Gotham, Skyfall Mansion)
Both the hero and villain were trained/led by the same person (Ra's and M)
Villain came into the story knowing everything (Bruce's identity, the inner workings of MI6)

Also, I hated that theme song. And sadly, it will end up being the most 'popular' one of all time, because it's current and people love Adele.
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Just got back from this, fucking wow. How did people call this boring, I was on the edge of my seat the whole film! Maybe not as much as in the last 20 minutes of TDKR, but I was extremely pumped nonetheless. My only question is, what happened to the old guys dogs? You hear them barking when the first wave of guys come, but they are never seen again. Seems like it would be pretty fucked up for the guys to just leave them to die.
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I finally got around to reading Roger Moore's book. I can't stand him as Bond mainly because he never cared for the source material (Hell, he didn't even know the heroine of The Spy Who Loved Me novel was Vivienne Michel, NOT Ayna Amasova), but he comes off as a humble guy who admits he took a number of roles just for the money, which probably ties into my dislike for him, lol.

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- Killed the rumor that he was a / the original choice to play James Bond (or had been approached for it) in Dr. No

- Would've done On Her Majesty's Secret Service, but was busy with The Saint at the time.

- Confirmed Lazenby's departure because of his agent's bad advice and that he wouldn't have continued even if he did do Diamonds Are Forever.

- Connery's main reason for giving up being 007 was getting lowballed by the producers which is why he demanded his $1,000,000 asking price for DAF.

- Declined to make a second season of The Persuaders so he could get the James Bond role.

- A stunt driver from Live And Let Die during filming in New York because he drove one of the film's nice cars to a local gas station to get re-fueled that had the fake license plates seen in the films and the cops didn't believe he was an actor!

- Had a hard time filming his first Bond movie because he's afraid of alligators and snakes!

- Made Jane Seymour cry after a prank gone wrong when Roger Moore (in advance) told everybody to leave the lunch table all at once, leaving her all by herself.

- A tarot card dealer gave Moore his reading one day on set and he would be in an accident while traveling in a black limousine. He made sure to avoid using those afterwards.

- Cubby Broccoli liked big tits and it would be a major factor in actresses being cast as the Bond girl.

- Jack Palance was considered for the role of Francisco Scaramanga.

- Pranked Desmond Llewelyn by having his lines in the script changed at the last minute.

- Nick Nack was rumored to be quite the man*****. He would always get a hotel room on the first floor because he couldn't reach the buttons in the elevator.

- Moore and Cubby would constantly try to one-up each other during games of backgammon, to the point where it would affect film schedule because Cubby wouldn't let Moore return to the set!

- During the boat chase in Bangkok, the local undertaker had put dead bodies in the river!

- Almost got Britt Ekland seriously injured when he lost his grip on her during their run through the explosions in the island lair.

- Christopher Lee is a fan of opera music and wore a false tan during filming that could only be washed off with hot water.

- The scene where Moore goes to meet the bellydancer to retrieve the golden bullet was the final scene of the movie filmed. After the take was over, Moore got a taste of his own medicine when Cubby had a bucket of paste poured on him, ruining that nice suit he had been sporting.

- Was good friends with Frank Sinatra

- Played as Sherlock Holmes once with Patrick Macnee as Dr. John Watson

- Kept losing a number of movie roles to Edward Fox

- Rick Sylvester was paid $30,000 to do the famous Union Jack parachute jump. Hearing a dead quiet crowd erupt with deafening applause after the opening sequence ended is one of Roger Moore's favorite moments in life.

- Maurice Binder wouldn't finish the opening credits sequence until the day before the world premiere. He would also rub Vaseline on women's private parts to keep their pubic hair flat when they were in front of the wind machine.

- Cameraman Alec Mills demanded Roger Moore leave the submarine when he had to go inside the torpedo tube to film, out of fear Moore would push the button to launch him out!

- Would get kidney stones from time to time and suffered from a case of shingles once during filming. The camera man had to film around Moore by going over his shoulder, but if you look carefully in the Spy Who Loved Me, you can see Roger's face is swollen.

- During lunch one day in Pinewood Studios, a child actress was a fan of his and wanted to meet him and so they did. She was very smart who would give suggestions to the director on where to put the camera. That girl was a very young Jodie Foster!

- Burned his ass because the special effects guy pushed the button too early on the exploding chair during the confrontation with Stromberg scene.

- The guy who played Sandor didn't want to do his death scene because he's afraid of heights.

- His jokes didn't go so well during Japanese press events because they got lost in translation.

- Bought a Rolls Royce and drove around it dressed as Santa Clause once.

- OJ Simpson was the original choice for Shawn Flynn in The Wild Geese because the agents didn't know the meaning of the term "black Irish" was.

- Gambled with Telly Savalas once.

- Moonraker was over the top even for him!

- Based his repulsed look during scenes with the films' villains by pretending they had bad breath.

- Lois Chiles was a problem for the hair and make-up crew because after they had straightened her hair out, she would go and get it wet to make it curly after each take.

- She also had a hard time delivering her lines during a scene in Drax's space station. To make her at ease, Roger Moore had a film crew member dress up as a green Martian to wash the windows.

- During the funeral boat sequence in Venice, the props department got the wreathes from outside a church in St. Marks Square where a real funeral was taking place!

- At a local bar, an old lady asked him what he was doing in Venice to which he told her he was filming a movie. She asked him which movie. He answered a 007 movie to which she asked him who does he play. At this point, Ken Adam, who was there with him, was in complete LOL mode.

- Liza Minnelli is Judy Garland's daughter and was married to Jack Haley Jr. the son of the guy who played The Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz! During a gondola ride late at night with Roger and his friends, she was singing. An angry Italian opened his window and shouted "Shut up! Who do you think you are? Liza Minnelli?!!" X D

- Bernard Lee was an alcoholic. He wanted to do his scenes in For Your Eyes Only, but was in too much pain to complete them due to his stomach cancer.

- (I always thought Steven Spielberg was denied from directing For Your Eyes Only because he didn't have that much experience, but) According to Roger, it didn't happen because its EON's policy that no director ever got a slice of box office profits. (This explain why all the best directors don't do James Bond films.)

- Anthony Perkins was a film trivia guru.

- Had a three picture deal with EON. After The Spy Who Loved Me, it was changed to a film by film basis.

- Chaim Topol loved eating pistachio nuts and would threw the shells under Alec Mills's camera as his way of ribbing him.

- Carole Bouquet couldn't dive because of a sinus problem. Her film producer boyfriend was a heroin addict.

- Had it been up to him, throwing in the dove pin would've sent Locque over the cliff. UGH!!!

- After Marlon Brando declined to accept his Oscar for the Godfather, nobody took the statue from Roger so he just held onto it. When he went outside to leave after the show, fans thought he had won an Academy Award and congratulated him for it. X D

- Believed the auditons being held to be the next 007 was just an elaborate ploy to make sure he would continue with the franchise.

- Never Say Never Again was allowed to happen is because Cubby took a share in profits.

- There was zero animosity between Sean and Roger during "The Battles of The Bonds." In fact, they would have dinner together often and compare notes.

- Didn't have a problem with Christopher Walken who likes to be prepared and wants the same out of his co-workers, but is mislabeled as "being difficult to work with" because of his work ethic.

- They were granted filming permits with ease and practically given creative freedom in San Francisco because the mayor was a Roger Moore fan.

- A View To A Kill was Dolph Lungren's first film role and got his part because he was dating Grace Jones at the time. Roger Moore has nothing nice to say about her.

- Didn't get all emotional when he decided to stop being Bond and was a team player from start to finish.
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- Liza Minnelli is Judy Garland's daughter and was married to Jack Haley Jr. the son of the guy who played The Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz! During a gondola ride late at night with Roger and his friends, she was singing. An angry Italian opened his window and shouted "Shut up! Who do you think you are? Liza Minnelli?!!" X D
^This one cracks me up.

Really enjoyed the film. I would have liked to have seen a bit more of subterranean London, rather than just one secret passageway straight into an active tube tunnel. That map of it looked amazing. I know the map would have been made up for the film but there are loads of abandoned sewers and passageways criss-crossing all under London and they might've explored them a little more.

Loved how they tied it up at the end and brought the Craig Bond up to date with the previous Bonds.

Anyone know if that was deffo his last one or if he will make another?
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Also, I know it's just a fan theory, but I dislike showing his parents grave. I know he's always been an orphan and such, but I love the idea that "James Bond" is just a title passed down from agent to agent. It would add a little realism to why he's always spouting off his name to every damn person- it's his code name, not his real one.
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