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Re: SPOILER *all five books* THREAD FOR Game of Thrones (TV series discussion)

Qyburn's role has probably been played, he was supposed to bring back Gregor and he's done so. Don't think he has too much else left to do.


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Re: SPOILER *all five books* THREAD FOR Game of Thrones (TV series discussion)

But what significance has Gregor's death had? Was there any rwal need to have him killed, just to be resurrected as a Frankenstein's monster. Had he survived his ordeal with the Viper then it would have absolutely no impact on the plot. There's got to be more to Qyburn than just this. An agent of the Others perhaps? Or possibly worships them.

My theory on who/what the Others are = What Catelyn Stark has become. The Other's were once part of R'hllor's religion but fell in battle and were given the kiss of life, and have become what they are now. The Great Other = the first one of these to openly defy R'hllor and rebel against their former religion, thus why the Great Other is referred to as R'hllor's arch enemy. It also reinforces Martin's idea that The Other's aren't just totally evil(everythings not black and white), just like Lady Stoneheart isn't evil. Yes she is a complete bitch and will totally commit some fucked up things, but she has a motive, reasons and in the heart of all, she is essentially a good person.
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Re: SPOILER *all five books* THREAD FOR Game of Thrones (TV series discussion)

Always just assumed they were a different species. I mean Uncat can sorta talk and Berrick could talk. While iirc the way the Others talk is unintelligible, and sounds like ice breaking.


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Re: SPOILER *all five books* THREAD FOR Game of Thrones (TV series discussion)

KMay just be their language. The way The Other's are presented in the TV series looks almost exactly like how UnCat is described as looking in Feast. White, brittle hair, pale, gaunt and bony face with no life. And when she does speak at first, its more of a screeching sound, just like the noise that White Walker makes at the end of Season 2 when marching on the Fist.
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I thought Cat had a problem speaking because she had her throat slit.



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Re: SPOILER *all five books* THREAD FOR Game of Thrones (TV series discussion)

Yep she's got her throat slit and she still has the wounds on her face when clawed herself. Not sure why it didn't heal. Beric had grievous wounds, but I think they closed. MIght be wrong here. Maybe it has to do with how long she was dead? Thoros may have even said as much. Can't remember.

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Any Diety that decides STANNIS is a true Champion is one I believe in.

Lets nevermind the fact Lady Mel is likely using Westeros' Sour Savior.

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