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post #81 of 2537 (permalink) Old 01-12-2014, 05:58 PM
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

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everyone who got a LEECH is dead, right? Was that just a coincidence(because Melisandre's powers are obviously overblown):


Melisandre does have the ability to see a future of sorts through flames, as seen in her POV chapter. Although she can't always interpret these correctly, common theory is that she saw the deaths of Balon, Joffrey and Robb in the flames and then used that to gain more influence over Stannis by "using magic to kill his enemies".

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post #82 of 2537 (permalink) Old 01-12-2014, 06:06 PM
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

I don't think the "3 heads of the dragon" thing automatically means there will be a rider for all 3 dragons. I just think it will be Dany. But I will say in the HBO show when they were still planning to follow the books they had the kid in the Eyrie keep saying he wanted to see the little man fly during Tyrion being detained in Season 1. And Tyrion at the end said you won't see this little man fly today, but maybe some day you will. I don't think any of that is in the books at all. So, that's always peaked my interest as to if maybe there is some foreshadowing there for Tyrion riding a dragon. All that dialogue had to be written for some reason right?

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

A dragon rider can only ride one dragon and no more. This is known.

They called him the Lion of Lannister to his face...

...and whispered "Kingslayer" behind his back



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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

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everyone who got a LEECH is dead, right? Was that just a coincidence(because Melisandre's powers are obviously overblown). idk, I want to finish the book but then I read a couple of chapters, realize how AWESOME it is and don't want it to end so quickly.
it's kind of left for you to draw your own conclusions atm. gonna go out on a LIMB and say it's co-incidence/she had a vision. she definitely has power, but not that much to kill 3 kings like that.

as for JON his consciousness can definitely pass to something else, but we've no idea how this will emotionally effect him (or how dying will). in fact i'm sure he'll come out of it fucked up, if his body is revived (wasn't there a vision of his dead body in the cells? maybe mellisandre will revive him then)
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Yeah I'm hoping he comes back more like Beric Dondarrion and less like what Cat came back as... but can Melisandre do that?



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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

Cat was dead for a longer time and probably insane right before her death after seeing her son murdered.

However, if Jon is indeed in Ghost, then he could come back kinda off. Varamyr and Jojen both state that if you're in the beast too long, you become the beast.

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

I know Jon WARGING into Ghost is a really popular theory but I'm with the crowd who believe that he is very close to death but somehow pulls through either naturally or supernaturally but not from Melisandre's powers... I think it will be Val who uses some ancient First Men magic to resurrect Jon. I'm not sure if I read it in the old ASOFAI thread or a different forum but someone was talking about the theory that Val and her sister are actually priestesses of the Old Gods and have supernatural powers.

But if Jon does WARG into Ghost.... I hope it lasts only a chapter or two because like others have said, WARGING is super boring. And if Jon comes back similar to how Beric and Cat came back then I wonder if his memory will be messed up and if he has forgotten some pretty important things.



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I know Jon WARGING into Ghost is a really popular theory but I'm with the crowd who believe that he is very close to death but somehow pulls through either naturally or supernaturally but not from Melisandre's powers... I think it will be Val who uses some ancient First Men magic to resurrect Jon. I'm not sure if I read it in the old ASOFAI thread or a different forum but someone was talking about the theory that Val and her sister are actually priestesses of the Old Gods and have supernatural powers.

But if Jon does WARG into Ghost.... I hope it lasts only a chapter or two because like others have said, WARGING is super boring. And if Jon comes back similar to how Beric and Cat came back then I wonder if his memory will be messed up and if he has forgotten some pretty important things.
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

If Jon isn't in Ghost then the Varamyr prologue was a waste of space. All warg haters should stop reading now. It's going to be a really big deal guys.

lol who am I shitting here, this series isn't going to end.

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILER THREAD (srsly spoilers from all the books ITT)

not sure if posted. trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk
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