BLACK MARKET SMILIES
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The ESW arena with obese lumberjack cowboy hat guy
Re: TDL XI: MANY A PRINCE, BUT ONLY ONE A KING - THE RESULTS
LOL at TLK not knowing that Hogan /Andre also occurred at Mania IV.
Just a couple points:
TLK - "Right away, I see an option for a counterargument - Hogan may have been huge and paved the way, but what about Austin's peak years? WWF w/Austin on top ended up overtaking WCW w/Hogan on top. It has been documented that Austin is the highest draw of all time during his peak years."
...but that was the point. Hogan allowed Austin to get into that position due to his own impact in WCW, therefore he was greatly responsible for Austin's impact as well as his own, thus having a greater impact. I'm not sure how I could have made that clearer throughout the debate?
Seabs - "I don't think you were holding Austin not being able to do what Hogan did in WCW against him but it sounded a touch like it which obviously isn't a fair comparison due to opportunities, context and points in each career"
Actually I WAS holding it against Austin. The debate asked "Who had the greater impact on professional wrestling", not "Who had the greater impact on professional wrestling based on fair opportunities". It's a fact that Hogan had a greater impact on WCW than Austin ever did.
Mac's debate was good, although I felt it focused far too much on just WWF/WWE and Vince McMahon rather than having a broad perspective of how both men affected "professional wrestling", which is what the debate concerned more than just WWE. I also felt as if the fact that I credited Hogan for both his and Austin's success was overlooked a bit, based on feedback. Especially seeing as Mac was given credit for suggesting that Hogan's influence on the careers of people like Sid and Luger was a good thing. Oh well, opinions and all that.