Reactions to WWF name change,
All over this site, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...?f1-15600.html
Lets see a few,
In the first thread, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6248.html
we see someone posting/overviewing the WWF ross report(from Jim Ross back on WWF.com) where Jim Ross repeatedly refers to the WWF as WWE, one guy named Mik at Cornell, replies saying,
"Notice he was calling live events WWE events. That's just so stupid."
Another, "AM the kid" said, "WWE? Ugh..."
Another thread, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6261.html
The OP points out that Jim Ross, "I don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but in the recent Ross Report, Ross refers to the WWF several times as World Wrestling Entertainment
surly a sign of things to come"
AM the kid replied, "Maybe he was too lazy to write "the federation" or put the little WWF logo in there. I hope. sad.gif"
Another said, "Say "WWE" out loud to yourselves. It sounds funny."
Another responded to a picture, "Where the E in that logo???
And WWE just doesn't flow like WWF does."
Another thread, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6355.html
refutes everyone else, Op says
"Everybody seems to be in a big hoopla over the name change of the WWF to WWE. All I can say is big whoop. It's still the same thing, only with ONE LETTER in the name changed. Why such the big deal? Actually, the REAL crime here is that the product's still the same (GET THE TITLE OFF HOGAN)."
One user responded, "It's amusing since "killing the WWF" has been the subject of so many angles and egos. Now it's actually happened.
It's just something small, but it's something that many thought wouldn't happen or couldn't imagine happening. The sad thing is Vince owns so many brands in WCW, ECW, even the nWo. He's played his cards wrong with every one of them though and now has to go make up a new one."
Notjames said, "I'm kinda on the fence with this one. On the one hand, yes, it's just a name and 6 months from now the fans probably won't think twice about the name change.
On the other hand, the ubiquitous "Entertainment" makes what we watch seem less like a sport and more like a spectacle. I know the term "sports entertainment" has been bandied about for so long, but just hearing the name "World Wrestling Federation" gave it a feeling of something above the spectacle, something to be taken a little bit more seriously. It used to be about the athleticism. Now, it's just entertainment. Hell, it's hardly that nowadays, but I digress.
It also sounds goofy calling the standard bearer of the company the "World Wrestling Champion". Sounds like something from a B-movie or a kiddie cartoon. Of course, it also sounds goofy when the champ's Hulkl Hogan, but again I digress.
These times they are a-changin'..."
Another thread, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6386.html
has a response that says,
"Drops the F to emphasize the E for Entertainment. Haven't they done enough of that already. I don't need anymore emphasis."
The Ideas for Name Thread on May 6 2002(Night they announced name change on WWE RAW) http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6371.html
"I think changing the name to WCW would be a disaster. The name "WCW" is so tarnished and damaged that a choosing a new name would be a much better decision."
"What about calling it ECW? Most of the guys on the roster worked there at one time anyway. [Austin, Taz, Lita, Benoit, Guererro, Jericho, etc.]
Nah, Vince will never use WCW. Cuz he's petty like that.
Here's a series of acronyms that would work better than the uberlame WWE ("entertainment" is the wrong sort of noun):
WWC (conference, coalition)
WFW (World Federation of Wrestling)
Other funny stuff, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6395.html
"Guaran-damn-teed that Smackdown is cancelled within a year
while Raw on TNN will last.. much like how Raw lasted on USA in 1995." - May 6 2002, Ironically Smackdown went to be the better brand later in 2002.
Other stuff, "WWE needs to reinvent itself" May 7 2002 - http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...php?t6395.html
"First, why couldn't they have just been World Wrestling Federation Entertainment? WWFE like on the stock market? This way the brand name they've spent years building would still be in their brand name?
This is the scariest time in the company's history, in my opinion, since the steroid trial and sex scandal. This is why the McMahon's have to seriously sit down and restructure their product and the company's goals for the future. This is what I would suggest.
OBTAIN THE RIGHTS TO ALL WRESTLING MEDIA: While some don't believe the concept of a 24 hour wrestling channel would succeed, I still believe WWE should prep for such a project. They blew the WCW Invasion angle so make use of the archive footage they obtained. Combine that with the WWF library, possibly obtain the rights to ECW, make a move for AWA, Mid South, Memphis, UWF, World Class, etc. Negotiate with the Japan and Mexico promotions. An actual channel is year's worth of work and preparation but in the meantime begin the tease by convincing Viacom to let them run old WWF and WCW broadcasts on TV Land or Nick At Night perhaps.
Another option would be to run a show in the same vein as an E! True Hollywood Story or VH1 Behind The Music where they introduce us to past legends and big wrestling moments. For instance run a show on the Monday Night Wars with people within the company speaking openly about that era just like you see on those shows. Stick a camera in the face of Hogan, Savage, Austin, Vince, Russo, Bischoff, Flair, Nash, Triple H, etc and just let them shoot and educate.
More or less just give us something different... and...
BEGIN PROMOTING TO THE SMARKS: Again, people will criticize this but there should be one WWE show a week which breaks a little kayfabe, let's the guys speak honestly about what they do, their matches, "working" with this guy vs. this guy, their characters and storylines openly. Present a behind the scenes glimpse into the inner workings of WWE. Often in storylines the character's real personalities don't come out. Showcase some of that. Present the usual WWE fluff pieces to make the company look good but at the same time present the product for what it is. ENTERTAINMENT.
NEW/SEPERATE CREATIVE TEAMS- BRING BACK RUSSO, FERRARA: I can just envision all of you hitting reply and mocking such a suggesting but WWE is a publicly traded company and has been in a downward spiral since the XFL disaster. The product has suffered and with that so does profitability. I am not saying that Vince Russo and Ed Ferrarra are creative geniuses. They worked well enough with Vince McMahon though to save the WWF from potentially folding years ago and helped create the next generation of superstars which is something that needs done desperately right now.
I would give Vince/Russo/Ferrarra/Raven RAW. Vince/Heyman/Stephanie/Terry Taylor Smackdown. They need to present cutting edge television again even at the risk of losing advertisers. Their advertising should come from deals with record labels, movie companies media, computer/gaming/software companys and maybe try to target more adult advertisers like beer companies, etc.
Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to fitting Bischoff in there somewhere. The bottom line is WWE shouldn't be running ads for a creative team on Hot Jobs. They should have proven talent in these roles under the supervision of Vince. Like them or not, Russo, Ferrarra, Taylor, Bischoff, etc. are proven.
GIVE THE SHOWS DIFFERENT LOOKS: Smackdown should take a darker appearance and begin the next season on UPN with a new live Wednesday night time slot.
HAVE THE SHOWS CRITIQUE EACH OTHER: With seperate creative teams, seperate talent, etc. the announcers should take pot shots at their competition. Create a rivalry, albeit under the same ownership."
More, July 16, 2003, "Do you think there will ever be WM 30?" - http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...hp?t37095.html
"Wrestlemania XIX... great but problematic show" - http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...hp?t29591.html
And much more in the archive, http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/lofi...?f1-16950.html