If I really don't like someone, I call them a Tony Schiavone.---Ron Funches
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington D.C.
Re: Face/Heel turns that feel flat in the long run!
I agree on the Lex Express but I'll go back further and mention his 1991 turn in WCW. I thought Luger was an okay heel (thanks to Harley Race) but IMO, it fell flat for the following reasons:
The whole situation with Flair sucked all interest out of the angle. Nobody gave a shit about Luger vs. Windham, they wanted Flair.
It should have never happened, as Windham should have aligned with Harley Race and become the top heel in the company, due to the Flair connection and a previous feud with eventual champion, Sting. Well, not exactly a feud but the fact that he "attempted" to cost Sting the title at HH '90 could have led to a program.
And more importantly, Luger was gone in 6 months. He rarely wrestled in the fall & winter and immediately after dropping the title to Sting, he left. Seemed kind of dumb to run a heel turn angle and give a guy the belt, with his contract not calling for him to be around much anyway and shortly after, made it known that he wanted to leave the company.
Vader in 1995 & 1997
Now, I realize the 1995 turn never fully got started, as Vader got fired but it was dumb anyway. The thing I find to be dumb about it is how Hogan seemingly wanted Vader to turn babyface and align with him but shot down a similar angle a year prior with Ric Flair.
And in 1997, Vader was totally lost in the shuffle. Turning him face MIGHT have been okay if he was still in the title picture but by that point, he couldn't have been further from it. And even then, I'm not sure how big a face Vader/heel Bret feud for the WWE Title would have fared. Either way, Vader never recovered from that.