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Old 06-29-2013, 04:44 AM   #21 (permalink)
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WWF & WCW lured all the top tier talent away. Even if they had stayed on television, Paul Heyman would have had to find new talent in an environment where anybody TVworthy wanted to go to the big two anyway.
This. Everything else is bullshit reasoning and could be mitigated. But they lost Raven, Taz, Public Enemy, Mike Awesome, Sandman i.e. pretty much all of their top acts. You can't run a carny show without carnys.
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:04 AM   #22 (permalink)
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A few reasons:-

* Product was too violent in general to really capture a mainstream audience, it was also going to be a niche.

* They expanded too fast in too short of a period of time, they pretty much created a bubble for themselves that eventually had to burst.

* Heyman was a terrible businessman.
Very good point raised.To be successful,you also need to be mainstream.And this is where WWF flourished with Hogan,Austin,Rock whilst ECW failed.

However,RVD was really popular,I heard about him even before he came to WWF in 2001.
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I don't know why anyone would say it was too smarky. WWE audiences chanted ECW on a weekly basis during the Attitude era, they were looking for reasons to chant for it. It was the hip, underground alternative to WWE/WCW. And it was a true alternative in every way, the content was much different until WWE adopted a good portion of it.

It's not so much that it was "killed", it was never going to be a long-term thing. I think the nail was hit on the head about how WWE/WCW lured away most of their top talents. And ECW was working tiny venues with loud drunken audiences with no real advertising for PPV or anything. Their revenue couldn't of been great, so it's not surprising Paul had the financial troubles that he did.

It never grew, but it was better because it never grew.
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Their revenue couldn't of been great, so it's not surprising Paul had the financial troubles that he did.
One of the D-list garbage wrestlers (I forget which one) said he made more in ECW in 1999 than he did in TNA in the 2000s. And this was not some super-hype legend guy.

And THAT is the other half of why ECW folded.
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I don't know why anyone would say it was too smarky. WWE audiences chanted ECW on a weekly basis during the Attitude era, they were looking for reasons to chant for it. It was the hip, underground alternative to WWE/WCW.
The WWf crowd at King of the Ring 1995 which was held in Pittsburg chanted E-C-W!!! throughout that entire card which is still one of the worst WWF/WWE PPVs. it was after this that the WWF noticed ECW. Bret ssaid he got the idea for the table bump in his match against Diesel from seeing Sabu.

When WWf held the Mind Games PPV they'd worked out a spot with ECW where Heyman and some of their guys would interfere in a match and get a bit of exposure (ECW's ffirst PPV was coming up until it was postponned aftet the Mass Transit incident).
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No financial backing. You need money to expand a business, Heyman's EcW was expanding but no money behind it. It went under.
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To his credit though, he was very over worked. He did almost everything including editing.
I wouldn't say this is to his credit... Vince McMahon has been a hardcore workaholic for something like 30 years when it comes to the WWE, didn't go against him in terms of being a success.

It's purely and simply down to business sense. Everyone knows this.
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Paul Heyman is a Wrestling Genius. Just don't trust him with your checkbook.
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every single show they ran in the ecw arena (and nearly all were sold out) lost money, that gives you an idea what they were working against

there is no way of running a successful wrestling business (at least last 25 years) without tv revenue/exposure

its a credit to heyman and others that ecw lasted as long as it did

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This. Everything else is bullshit reasoning and could be mitigated. But they lost Raven, Taz, Public Enemy, Mike Awesome, Sandman i.e. pretty much all of their top acts. You can't run a carny show without carnys.
Losing talent to a company in ECW's position and with its philosophy really is an overrated excuse. The vast majority of the guys that became the company's stars - guys like Sandman, Sabu, and New Jack especially - were completely awful in a normal wrestling setting but managed to suddenly become entertaining when they were beating the hell out of each other with singapore canes, leaping through barbed wire, and spilling plasma all over the building. Imagine that. ECW made stars out of Mikey Whipwreck and Spike Dudley, a couple 150-pound dorks who looked more like grocery store stock boys than pro wrestlers, merely because they were really good at taking an ass-kicking. The point I mean to make is that in ECW, anyone could become a star if they were put in the right position because it didn't really take any actual ability so much as the ability to bleed. People go on about Jericho, and Benoit, and Eddie, and Malenko, but how many ECW World Title reigns did they have between them? Zero. The belt always went on glorified backyard wrestlers like Sandman, Sabu, and Justin Credible. If the company could thrive with those guys, they could be easily replaced.
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