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Old 06-06-2013, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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his gimmick is the gayest thing of all time. i have trouble getting passed this.. i'm not homophobic.. just the beaded vests and the posing... and the theme song.. he is one of the best sellers of all time. he made every move a new move.. but i cant put him top 10..
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I don't like him either. Has nothing to do with his gimmick, I just can't stand the guy. I think he's bland and corny. On the mic he's dreadful. he's good in the ring, but definitely no Benoit or Hart.
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his gimmick is the gayest thing of all time. i have trouble getting passed this.. i'm not homophobic.. just the beaded vests and the posing... and the theme song.. he is one of the best sellers of all time. he made every move a new move.. but i cant put him top 10..
I agreed with you from about 95-03. Everything about mid-late 90s HBK, from his gimmick to his real-life attitude, made me want to punch him in the face. That worked great when he was a heel in DX. He was one of the guys I'd pay money to see lose. But not so much when he was supposed to be the top babyface (though I still paid money in the hopes that he'd lose). But even back then I'd (grudgingly) respect the hell out of his ability.

He won me over in the 2000s. I couldn't hate him anymore after Survivor Series 2003. He was just too damn good and now he wasn't afraid to job. His gimmick was also less obnoxious in the 2000s. He was my favorite in 2007-2008 and I consider him a Top 3 GOAT and a Top 20 all time favorite.
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My all time fav. Shawn is simply awesome, you don't have to love him but you have to respect him
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You just got to watch some of his greatest matches to realized why he is so loved among wrestling fans. Whether you like him or not, you can't deny that he is one of the greatest to have ever stepped in a WWE ring.
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I don't like him either. Has nothing to do with his gimmick, I just can't stand the guy. I think he's bland and corny. On the mic he's dreadful. he's good in the ring, but definitely no Benoit or Hart.

in my opinion HBK > Bret and Benoit in the ring, in terms of being an overall performer. Shawn could high-fly, technical wrestle, and put on some of the most dramatic and epic matches in the history of the WWE. I credit Bret and Benoit as only being great technical wrestler.(That's not slight against them, because I am a fan of both, but just saying.)
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Also, just because you don't like his gimmick doesn't mean he's not great. This is classic, "I don't like him so therefore he sucks mentality."
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Because he is HBK. The heart break kid. Mr. Wrestlemania.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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To the op: because he was an amazing in ring performer. And I liked his persona back then, but I can understand why others wouldn't.

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in my opinion HBK > Bret and Benoit in the ring, in terms of being an overall performer. Shawn could high-fly, technical wrestle, and put on some of the most dramatic and epic matches in the history of the WWE. I credit Bret and Benoit as only being great technical wrestler.(That's not slight against them, because I am a fan of both, but just saying.)
Well that would be inaccurate. You're underselling them by saying that they're just great technical wrestlers.

Both could also put on "dramatic and epic matches" as well as many other qualities.

I believe that each have their own strengths, and don't really need to be compared in a derisive manner, either way.


Shawn was one of the absolute greatest showmen ever, with tons of charisma in the ring, and an effortless high flying ability (the effortless aspect gets undersold..the man makes it look like he could do athletic moves in his sleep).

Bret was one of the greatest storytellers and psychologists ever, in addition to being one of the most sound & fluid technicians ever, and who possessed an innate ability to carry anyone to a great match. As well as an ability to elevate good people to classic matches.

Benoit was one of the crispest technicians I've ever seen, with almost unparallelled intensity, and a ton of explosiveness for a little guy.

They all have their strengths, and no need to inaccurately knock down one guy to prop up another one.

Now if you're saying you prefer one over the other for the qualities that they bring, that totally makes sense to bring up to compare. But boiling someone down to just one thing is disingenuous. It'd be like saying that Shawn is just a high flyer. That's not true.

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in my opinion HBK > Bret and Benoit in the ring, in terms of being an overall performer. Shawn could high-fly, technical wrestle, and put on some of the most dramatic and epic matches in the history of the WWE. I credit Bret and Benoit as only being great technical wrestler.(That's not slight against them, because I am a fan of both, but just saying.)
I agree that he was more versatile. Yes. And his 2002-2010 run he got even much better from a psychology standpoint. That's where the experience pays off.
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