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post #21 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-01-2013, 03:18 PM
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Re: Why Kevin Nash did not wrestle at WM18?

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Even if a creative member shoots on this, how do you know he's telling the truth? What you are suggesting is the complete disregard of every and any thing ever said as lies, and nothing is to be believed. Just because something sounds more attractive to you, doesn't mean it's the truth. And if you just want to point out that absolute knowledge cannot be attained, then there's nothing to discuss at all.

It is all laid out in front of you. Nobody has ever come out and said Austin was the original plan. Multiple people have come forward and said Rock, but it is all a coincidence, right? How is it not logical to think Rock was the original plan? You are the same as the conspiracists that say Rock recently walked out and didn't get injuried because there is no "real" evidence, even though loads of interviews have "confirmed" it verbally.

And BTW, I'm a much bigger Austin mark than I'm a Rock mark, but the length that Austin marks would go to defend Austin is disgusting.

yeah rock marks aren't typically trolls or anything
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The original plan was to do Nash vs Taker. Taker didn't like it and had it changed to him vs Flair.

I think they chose Hall instead of Nash to face Austin because Hall and Austin better mash wrestling and character wise.
cool let's just make stuff up.

the original plan was for Nash to go over Jericho and become the champ. then he was going to beat the entire roster, but Triple H didn't like it and changed it. they decided that Hogan was a better mesh for Rock so Nash got nothing.


also perfect was complete shite in 2002. you must love to rewrite history brother.


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yeah rock marks aren't typically trolls or anything
When did I ever say they weren't?

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Even if a creative member shoots on this, how do you know he's telling the truth? What you are suggesting is the complete disregard of every and any thing ever said as lies, and nothing is to be believed. Just because something sounds more attractive to you, doesn't mean it's the truth. And if you just want to point out that absolute knowledge cannot be attained, then there's nothing to discuss at all.

It is all laid out in front of you. Nobody has ever come out and said Austin was the original plan. Multiple people have come forward and said Rock, but it is all a coincidence, right? How is it not logical to think Rock was the original plan? You are the same as the conspiracists that say Rock recently walked out and didn't get injuried because there is no "real" evidence, even though loads of interviews have "confirmed" it verbally.

And BTW, I'm a much bigger Austin mark than I'm a Rock mark, but the length that Austin marks would go to defend Austin is disgusting.
Anybody that knows me knows I'm far from an Austin mark. And I never said Austin was the original plan.

I'm saying how do you know they telling the truth? Its no different than Nash repeatedly saying he didn't book himself to end the streak.

We should just believe it and accept it, right? We didn't work and wouldn't know if it was true.


In closing, this thread has nothing to do with Hogan, Rock or Austin. Its about why Nash didn't work WM 18.

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Anybody that knows me knows I'm far from an Austin mark. And I never said Austin was the original plan.

I'm saying how do you know they telling the truth? Its no different than Nash repeatedly saying he didn't book himself to end the streak.

We should just believe it and accept it, right? We didn't work and wouldn't know if it was true.


In closing, this thread has nothing to do with Hogan, Rock or Austin. Its about why Nash didn't work WM 18.

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I don't know if they're telling the truth, however, it is the most probable assumption we can make at this point, and it is far more probable than this Austin vs Hogan talk based on the information we have. And like I said, if the only thing you can say is "you can't know anything for sure" then there is nothing to discuss. How do you know if the original plan was Austin vs Hogan, or Undertaker vs Hogan, or Funaki vs Hogan? I can sit here and say "the Bret Hart screwjob was a work and they're all acting," can you proof me wrong? How do you know if any one of them is telling the truth? Should we just believe it and accept it? Like you said, we didn't work there and wouldn't know if it was true, right?

I'll be the first one to say I don't believe anything at all. But, for the sake of discussion, we do have to accept the information presented as it is, and make the most rational, logical, and probable assumption we can. If all the interviews saying Rock vs Hogan are just all a coincidence, and all the information we have about the screwjob is just a work, I'm more than willing to be wrong.

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Re: Why Kevin Nash did not wrestle at WM18?

I believe it was because of a bruised anus that he had suffered a week earlier.

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Re: Why Kevin Nash did not wrestle at WM18?

I know Rock/Hogan was an Iconic match, but I think the nWo creatively ruined what could have been a legendary WM. there were so many possibilities for that year.
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cool let's just make stuff up.

the original plan was for Nash to go over Jericho and become the champ. then he was going to beat the entire roster, but Triple H didn't like it and changed it. they decided that Hogan was a better mesh for Rock so Nash got nothing.


also perfect was complete shite in 2002. you must love to rewrite history brother.
Perfect stole the show at the Rumble. Has nothing to do with rewriting history, what are you talking about?

As far as as Nash vs Taker goes. I read about the match on liveaudiowrestling.com. Check this out for yourself.

Besides, do you realy think that Taker vs Flair was the long term plan for Takers big 10th win at Wrestlemania?!
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To be honest I also remember rumors of Hogan vs. Austin first and then it was even talked about on Toronto radio after Mania finished by Live Audio Wrestling.

I know some think this rumor isn't true, but LAW stated on the post show that Austin balked at the idea for some of the reasons how the match went down in terms of Hogan rebirthing his career at Austin's expense like what he did with Rock.

We know Austin didn't like the direction because it seemed like he was getting depushed somewhat because the nWo guys were coming in who also happened to be friends with HHH.

I also remember the original plan was the two man power trip breaking up to have a match for SummerSlam, but HHH getting injured. Now the question begs was Austin scheduled to get his win back for jobbing to HHH at the No Way Out ppv months before(all this before hotshotting Invasion).

It seems it got put over to WM after HHH's injury. This also seemed to screw up Rock vs Austin rematch that may have been done for Mania where Rock got his win back on Austin.

Either way long term Austin had to get a proper comeuppance for turning heel which never happened besides the karaoke bit with Rock where he rock bottomed him.

I bring this all up because I want to show why it's possible Austin balked at all of this especially after he devalued the Austin character turning heel that same year.

The Rock no matter what was going to get back his Mania moment after giving one up to Austin the year prior. Just solid business with Rock becoming a movie star. The way I see it Rock basically could get back his glory only against the two man power trip or against the nWo/Hogan.

If some disagree with this it's exactly what happened for WM 19. I also see why Austin ended up with Hall, but also do remember hearing he vetoed jobbing to Hall. The reason for Hall going over was for there to be a split in wins and losses with wwe and nWo which would be the catalyst for the brand split where the nWo would float. Nash would be used to create a controversial finish where the board would make a decision.

As it turned out that didn't happen and the angle for the split didn't make much sense.

I do also remember Nash vs. Taker rumors. I did wonder though why Perfect wasn't used better.

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