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Old 05-29-2013, 06:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Was the Ultimate Warrior scheduled to win the WWF title in 1996?

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Sorry for being slow, but your point was?

What do you mean by: "the guy couldn't make it past a few months in the company" ?
I assume you believe WWE's version. Just a curious question, did you ever see Warriors shoot regarding his take on his departure in the company? His version kind of puts Vince in the same light as others have made VKM to be. Not saying Warrior is right, but I acuatlly side mroe with Warriors story since he explains everything that ledd up to his departure while WWF just claimed Warrior missed dates on purpose and was fired accordingly
What do I mean by "the guy couldn't make it past a few months in the company"? I mean that, no matter what the reason or who was at fault, the guy couldn't make it past a few months in the company. Vince is obviously no angel. But given Warrior's past transgressions in WWF, WCW and with multiple other wrestlers and the fact that NUMEROUS wrestlers have come out and bashed the guy, I kind of lean towards their direction more than I do Warrior's.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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WWF magazine was at the time hinting towards it for Survivor Series.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Gotta remember that when Warrior beat Hogan at WM 3, they planned on him carrying the WWF for at least 10 years and he could have if his work ethic wasn't so awful and he was a dick. For him to also squash HHH like that, you could see that's what they planned on.
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If Warrior was to win at any point, it probably would have been at Survivor Series, but I really don't see where he fit in the WWF Title picture at the time.

I think that the WWF Title picture was very much in flux during HBK's reign and the beginning of the nWo that the only real decision that was made longterm had to have been Shawn winning the title back at the Rumble in San Antonio. They put a lot into the hype of that show. And I think Bret/Shawn was the likely WM13 main event that they had in the back of their heads the entire time.

I think Vader was the favorite to beat Shawn, but for whatever reason, Shawn didn't like him, so Sid was the one they went with. Maybe they were buddies from around the time of WM11 when Sid was Shawn's manager? Didn't read his book, don't know their relationship, but Sid seemed to overall be on the good side of the WWF at the time.

In Bret's book, he talked a lot about how Vince promised him a long run as champ then went back on it, and I expect he did the exact same thing with Shawn.

Now, Sid was a replacement for Warrior in the six-man at International Incident, but I don't think that automatically plugs Warrior into every role Sid had once Warrior left. I think it was more than likely that Shawn was either losing at SummerSlam or Survivor Series. I think Survivor Series was most likely, since that was in MSG and they always try to make their MSG PPVs special. Plus, by that point in Shawn's reign, he was getting booed by the MSG crowd, so they must have seen the writing on the wall, but still went forward with the second San Antonio title win.

Either way, I don't see Warrior fitting in there. It was either Sid or Vader the whole time. I suppose, since they did a Sid-UT main event, UT could have been switched out with Warrior giving him another title win, but that 1996 ad had to have been a mistake.
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LOL, if Warrior won the Title, imagine douche bag 90s HBK's reaction, simply based off of what we know about his attitude.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:39 AM   #26 (permalink)
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For anyone who has watched the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD, they may remember a part in which the WWE are talking about the Warrior no showing dates in 1996. While they were showing advertisements for the Warrior at the time, one was showcased in which it had the Ultimate Warrior DEFENDING the WWF Championship against Vader at a show in July. If this was the case, it would signal that Shawn Michaels would have, at some stage, dropped the title to the Ultimate Warrior at some point before this time.

Has anyone ever heard any truth to this rumour, or if WWE had any actual plans to put the belt on the Warrior at that time? Looking back, it honestly would not surprise me if WWE put together the advertisement up just to make Warrior look even worse to the fans on the DVD (because that DVD was just a complete burial as anyone who watched it knows). I still cannot see a point in which it looked like Warrior was being built to win the belt as quickly as July. He was scheduled to participate in a 6 man tag team match at the WWF International Incident pay per view, a match which would have had him team up with Shawn Michaels and Ahmed Johnson against Owen, Bulldog and Vader.
From what I understand, that ad on the DVD was just a marketing botch. Shawn Michaels was on the original poster, but was replaced with Warrior, but they left the WWF Championship part left in by mistake.

Had Warrior not been flaky again, he would've no doubt been WWF Champion again. The only problem is I couldn't see Shawn jobbing to him. He would've thrown another one of his backstage hissy fits again.

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Old 05-30-2013, 06:58 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I was invovled in this discussion years ago on another wrestling forum, as far from what I can remember, one of the guys had and published the original poster of that show, and it was WWF Champion HBK vs Vader not WWF Champion Warrior vs Vader. So WWE obviously photoshopped that picture for unknown reasons
Yeah, that is what I was hinting at in another post. It honestly would not surprise me if WWE changed that advertisement just for the purpose of making Warrior look bad. Its not as if 95% of that DVD wasn't done with those intentions anyway!
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WWF magazine was at the time hinting towards it for Survivor Series.
I remember in early 2004 WWE Magazine once predicted Shelton Benjamin to win a World title before Randy Orton, the magazine is always largely kayfabe. They edited this to make him look bad, the only thought they'd have given to putting the title on him is if he would have set the company on fire when he returned. Once that didn't happen, I'm sure things immediately soured between Warrior and Vince.
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ON the Warrior DVD, they show the Summerslam cardboard with HBK defending the title against Warrior. So Vader probably replaced Warrior once Hellwig left.
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ON the Warrior DVD, they show the Summerslam cardboard with HBK defending the title against Warrior. So Vader probably replaced Warrior once Hellwig left.
Where was that? I have the Warrior DVD but never recall remembering this, despite having seen it several times
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