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Old 04-27-2013, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default After viewing the recent ECW documentary --> Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

Listen the attitude era, Stone cold Austin or whatever....tables chairs and what have you..Who cares?

Nothing can compensate for the sadistic horrors of the Mass transit incident, the money hungry tactics of Heyman that is the kind of stuff that gives jews a bad reputation, all the disabled wrestlers.

ECW did so much more harm than good. It was a freak show. It was a bunch of idiots who were snorting cocain in front of Paul Heyman and then going out to the ring and just ruining their bodies for nothing.

I'm a wrestling fan and never in my life did I want to watch a freak show. ECW was like a german scat video and I don't even know what that means, I just heard the expression, but unfortunately I know what ECW was.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW-documentary->Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

ECW was responsible for the Attitude ERA and a lot of storylines that you see in Wrestling today. It was also responsible for SCSA who would lead to wrestling being one of the most popular forms of entertainment in the world.

ECW did its bad and its good, but without it wrestling would have never gotten to the levels it once did. So i take the bad with the good i suppose.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW-documentary->Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

heyman is an asshole who's always been a poor businessman and only cares about his guys. he has talent and good mind for angles/storylines great at promos, but is a jerk in real.
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW-documentary->Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

Heyman is a horrible business man but a phenomenal mind for the business and seeing where it should be going.

Like others have said though, the real beginning of SCSA was during his short stint with ECW. Those promos are some of his best work.
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW-documentary->Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

Heyman is a liar and a person who to the non-wrestling fan is a two faced unsuccessful business man. Like others have said, ECW was responsible for the Attitude Era. New Jack sucks. Period. But like the OP said, the ECW was nothing but a freak show. I seen a SCSA youtube vid where he shoots on both WCW and ECW saying something like ECW is nothing more than prison inmates attempting to wrestle. Something along those lines.
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW-documentary->Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

Just because New Jack comes across like a prick and Heyman is clearly a duplicitous ass, there's no need to discredit the creativity of that scene at the time.
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW documentary --> Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

From what I have heard over the years Heyman get's too much credit. Dreamer, Raven, and others had a lot to do with the "creativity".
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From what I have heard over the years Heyman get's too much credit. Dreamer, Raven, and others had a lot to do with the "creativity".
I believe that. Raven is said to be one of the smartest men in the business and Tommy Dreamer is also said to be smart with coming up with creative ideas for angles like his feud with Raven so it wouldn't be too-far fetched that the wrestlers were coming up with their own ideas for their feuds, angles, characters, etc.
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Default Re: After viewing the recent ECW documentary --> Heyman and New Jack go F yourself

ECW did a lot of good stuff, but they pushed the stunts and extreme aspect too far. But so did Foley in WWE, with his bumps from the cell. So did Triple H's monthly juice jobs. So did Jeff Hardy's bumps in ladder matches. Only difference is they became millionares and the ECW performers didn't.

Wrestling has had a hard time coming down from that.
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