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Old 03-13-2013, 01:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The New Generation may be my favourite era in wrestling history. It's a tragedy that it never gets the love it deserves. The roster may have been lacking big names that would come before and after, but I really loved the bright, cartoony, lighthearted atmosphere of it all.

The Main Eventers - Bret Hart, Diesel, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, Vader, Razor Ramon, Yokozuna, Psycho Sid, Mankind, British Bulldog.
None were really huge draws but all were great in their own way. We got some great matches from Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and even Diesel's title reigns.

In Your House - A 2-hour budget PPV every month to give you a little taste of the big names without giving everything away before the big four. Gave us some great moments and matches.

The History - The rise of stars like The Rock, Steve Austin, and Triple H were made possible by this era. It was the perfect set-up into the attitude era that would come by early 1998.

Some come here and pay your respects to the most under-appreciated era in WWF history.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll bite (meaning this intrigues me enough to respond.) I think roster wise, because you're going through a transitional period is one of the greatest. I personally mark the New Generation with Hart beating Flair, or the beginning of Monday Night Raw. The problem is, they never had a solid roster at one time. It bleeds into the beginning of the Attitude Era, that I'll mark as early as Summerslam 1997 when Shawn hit Undertaker with the chair, leading to the first Hell in A Cell. But, when you look at the majority of the time, the undercard sucked ass. A lot of people give Shawn and Bret credit for the iron man match, failing to realize they got that much time because it's not like the WWE had anything better to offer.
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I wasn't necessarily there when it happened but it still didn't change the fact that wwe were really hesitant to move away from the Hogan style of wrestling instead of mixing it up like ECW and WCW did, it was getting dull with smatterings and gold here and there

a lot of the roster were no talents that even Jim Cornette couldn't do much with

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Main event talent was solid in hindsight and the years 1993 and 1994 as well as 1997 were all very good, but '95-'96 were terrible years for the company.

WWE had a pathetic midcard at the time, a thin roster, and '95 had terrible booking. Combined with the growing popularity of WCW it's no surprise WWE nearly went bankrupt in '96.
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I think it's looked upon a bit unfairly definitely. I think it's a case of it being sandwiched by the two greatest and most successful eras of wrestling in the Golden Era and The Attitude Era why it's not looked upon as strongly as those, but it still wasn't all bad as is implied quite a lot. Also, like certain other things in wrestling, this is looked upon as a bad era for things out of our control and reasons why we shouldn't really care, such as the money it made and selling out arenas. As a wrestling fan, this shouldn't even bother us nor look at it as a reason to not enjoy it.

I do look fondly at this era and certain things, Wrestlemania X especially, still stand up as sport-defining achievements. Monthly PPVs, frequent TV and on-going storylines really developed in this era which I believe helped it become what it was. I feel that wrestling should have died when the glory years of Hogan, Wrestlemania and Rock and Wrestling, along with the steroid scandal and numerous other massively negative lights being shone especially on WWF, the promotion began to dwindle. The fact WWF kept things stable enough to develop into a second peak in the late 1990s and to become what it became should mean this era is looked upon much better than it actually is.

When people mention the New Generation they bring up things like Duke Droese, Doink, Mabel winning King of The Ring and a lot of other Wrestlecrap, which to me is akin to talking about the Attitude Era and just bring up Manson-Dust, Mae Youngs hand and Kai-en-Tai. Nobody forgets but it's like classic matches such as Bret/Owen and HBK/Razor at WM X, as well as Bret/123 Kid on Raw are taken out of this era with all of the crap and placed somewhere else so they aren't associated with all of the nonsense that was really placed around it.
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The company was basically Bret, Shawn, Undertaker, Diesel, Razor, Vader, Mankind (in 96), Sid (at different times), Bulldog, and Owen. Everyone else was basically "meh." Sid was in and out, Mankind didn't debut until April '96. So, it was thin for awhile. But they were transitioning literally into the "New Generation" from the Golden Era.

I'll never understand why Vince had Macho Man on commentary for most of his last year in the company. I get that he wanted to push the new generation of guys, but having ONE big name older guy in the main event to put over the new talent could have only helped. Savage could still go in the ring in '94, and he wasn't a very good commentator, as much as I love the guy.

And this is also the period of time Vince was on trial for distributing steroids to his wrestlers. It was a very tenuous time for the WWF, to say the least. Vince wasn't even there for a large portion of time due to the trial, so it was up to others in the front office to run the company.

Still, as a kid growing up during this time period and not knowing anything like the trial that was going on, it was still pretty entertaining and did it's job. I might not have enjoyed it as much if I was older, but being in the age group I was in in the mid '90s (10 in '93, 11 in '94, 12 in '95, 13 in '96), it was perfect timing for me.
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The company was basically Bret, Shawn, Undertaker, Diesel, Razor, Vader, Mankind (in 96), Sid (at different times), Bulldog, and Owen. Everyone else was basically "meh." Sid was in and out, Mankind didn't debut until April '96. So, it was thin for awhile. But they were transitioning literally into the "New Generation" from the Golden Era.

I'll never understand why Vince had Macho Man on commentary for most of his last year in the company. I get that he wanted to push the new generation of guys, but having ONE big name older guy in the main event to put over the new talent could have only helped. Savage could still go in the ring in '94, and he wasn't a very good commentator, as much as I love the guy.

And this is also the period of time Vince was on trial for distributing steroids to his wrestlers. It was a very tenuous time for the WWF, to say the least. Vince wasn't even there for a large portion of time due to the trial, so it was up to others in the front office to run the company.

Still, as a kid growing up during this time period and not knowing anything like the trial that was going on, it was still pretty entertaining and did it's job. I might not have enjoyed it as much if I was older, but being in the age group I was in in the mid '90s (10 in '93, 11 in '94, 12 in '95, 13 in '96), it was perfect timing for me.
Some great points made here, but especially your last paragraph.

I'm a little bit younger so I was 10 in 1997, but in the years before then I can remember being entertained by all of it. I can remember Undertaker VS Undertaker being great, and even a lot of stuff that didn't grow with time was still ezciting to watch back in the day.

I look at this as WWF finding it's feet again. It's the early 80s over again, but just on a much larger scale due to the previous success.

I find the thing that kills this era off so much is hindsight. People look at what came before and after and sadly, because it hasn't got Hogan/Andre or Austin/Vince this era is looked upon as gestation instead of development, which is what it was. They could never have transitioned the way they did without those years and what they were doing with them.
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Some great points made here, but especially your last paragraph.

I'm a little bit younger so I was 10 in 1997, but in the years before then I can remember being entertained by all of it. I can remember Undertaker VS Undertaker being great, and even a lot of stuff that didn't grow with time was still ezciting to watch back in the day.

I look at this as WWF finding it's feet again. It's the early 80s over again, but just on a much larger scale due to the previous success.

I find the thing that kills this era off so much is hindsight. People look at what came before and after and sadly, because it hasn't got Hogan/Andre or Austin/Vince this era is looked upon as gestation instead of development, which is what it was. They could never have transitioned the way they did without those years and what they were doing with them.
The boldened sentence, yep, that's exactly what it was. Being kids at that time period, we had no idea. But that's what it was. I feel like the New Generation era really can't be appreciated unless you were a certain age in that time period. I have NO problem whatsoever being in that sweet spot of the age that can appreciate the New Generation. It was a transition from the Golden Era to the Attitude Era. There were ups and downs, but I can't say that I wasn't thoroughly entertained while watching it, because I was. The guys that I mentioned in my first post were all in their prime or just about to enter the prime of their careers and they are some of the greatest of all time (HBK, Bret, Taker, Austin, Foley). Plus, we got the ultimate payoff, being the perfect age during the Attitude Era
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What it all comes down to in my perspective was the fun factor that seems to be lacking today. No matter how much star-power they have, they just aren't capturing that magic. Not knowing all the backstage drama going on at the time, nor of the steroid trial, the ratings decrease, and borderline bankruptcy, it was really a great time to be a fan for many reasons.

The Attitude Era always gets the attention for being the "boom" in wrestling fandom. But from the so-called painful years of 1994-1996, you had some great stuff all across the card for all age groups to enjoy.

WCW was definitely better for the older crowd. More serious storylines and more technical wrestling and whatnot. But WWF had a wider range of angles for everyone to enjoy.

For adults: You had great wrestlers like Bret Hart, dark gimmicks like Mankind, cool guys like Razor Ramon, and general kick-ass powerhouses like Psycho Sid.

For kids: You had high flyings showmen like Shawn Michaels, fun gimmicks like Men On A Mission, and goofy harmless bad guys like Camp Cornette.

I think they did a much better job of creating a family-friendly product without ruining it for adults watching.
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The New Generation had its positives and negatives just like any other era.

Positives:
Better worked main events with the likes of Hart and HBK carrying the load. Those type of stars also getting more recognition and appreciation from fans which I believed started to creep in way back in 1991 with Bret Hart's run to the IC title.

The company was willing to create new platforms like Monday Night Raw. The effort to bring back the realism that was lost post WM V-WM VIII which some fans were demanding(I know of course we had silly gimmicks, but stuff like Hart/Diesel at SS 95 balanced it out).

It was a time that made things ripe for the big competition that came during the Monday Night Wars.

Negatives:
Lack of depth on the roster which dried up compared to the late 80's.

The company being stubborn in getting with the times which almost cost them survival.

Lack of star power.

At times too old fashioned booking.
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