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Old 02-20-2013, 05:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I never liked Yokozuna. He just never did it for me. He just wasn't interesting, at all. I always thought that 1993 should've been buit around a Perfect/Savage feud for the title. They could've built it brilliantly, starting with their friendship collapsing and then moving on to a bitter rivalry between them.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm not opposed to his Title reigns, but I thought they should have held off, for Bret Hart to reign as Champion through most of 1993 (as well as 1994). Personally, I always thought he kind of sucked.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Of all the wrestlers who were astonishingly obese, Yoko was by far the best in-ring.
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Please, so what if Yoko is an HOF?

Koko B Ware is there too. What does that mean?

I don't take the Hall of Fame seriously. They put him into it just because they wanted Rock to induct someone from his family, and that was the only one left. Don't take the HOF seriously: The WWE are using it for their interests.

And you've never answered me: Was he a star? Was he culturally relevant for the 1990s? Because as they said above me: Yoko was a 1980s character. And even if he wrestled back then, he would be nothing more then a jobber for Hogan.

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I never liked Yokozuna. He just never did it for me. He just wasn't interesting, at all. I always thought that 1993 should've been buit around a Perfect/Savage feud for the title. They could've built it brilliantly, starting with their friendship collapsing and then moving on to a bitter rivalry between them.
I rebooked in the "WWE PPV" section the whole time, without using Yokozuna in a big role and with a Savage/Perfect feud.

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I'm really interested in watching a classic match from Yokozuna that didn't involve Bret, you know, the guy that can make chicken salad out of chicken shit.


And I'm in no way bashing Yokozuna but can somebody explain how he was a good wrestler? Better yet, what makes a good wrestler?
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Owen Hart & Yokozuna are one of my all-time favorite tag-teams. Thought they had great chemistry and both guys having totally different styles made them fun to watch.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Why on here does it always descend into "I'm right, your opinion is wrong" deal. It's getting like Youtube.

I, also, find the argument that he did impressive things for his size a double edged sword. Yes, some of the things he did were impressive for a man that large, but they weren't anything that somebody smaller but still huge (Vader, Bam Bam) could do, however to contradict that, Yoko was also capable of the strength moves and executed them well. He had a great belly to belly that looked legit. His superkick was decent, the Banzai drop was a good finisher. He wasn't horrible in the ring, and what he did do was executed very, very well.

Should he have been champion? Yes. At the time, yes definitely. WWE was in the midst of losing stars and/or there current stars were dwindling. Hogan won the belt from him but he was never going to reach the heights he had before then, and then he ended up moving on. Yokozuna's character helped Bret get massively over as a world champion, and like it or not, Luger's American Express was somewhat over, not massively, but over enough.

Is it true that those in WWE wanted him to get even bigger? I've read that but couldn't believe it.

He seems well-liked, a lot of people have said nice things about him, and I don't think it's just because he's passed. Kevin Nash tells a story of Yoko ripping Shane Douglas apart backstage because Douglas wouldn't wrestle on a UK tour because he was injured, and HHH had to work twice. Apparently Yoko, in front of everyone, told Shane that he was basically a piece of shit for doing it and, for the fans, unless you're about to die you get out there and work.

I liked his tag team with Owen, too.

He died practically over the road from me too in the Adelphi Hotel. Well, 5 minutes from my house. I play pool in a pool hall over the road from it at least once a week, and every singly time I go past the Adelphi I think of Yoko. I don't say a prayer or anything, of course not, but it is a bit sad.
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Why on here does it always descend into "I'm right, your opinion is wrong" deal. It's getting like Youtube.

I, also, find the argument that he did impressive things for his size a double edged sword. Yes, some of the things he did were impressive for a man that large, but they weren't anything that somebody smaller but still huge (Vader, Bam Bam) could do, however to contradict that, Yoko was also capable of the strength moves and executed them well. He had a great belly to belly that looked legit. His superkick was decent, the Banzai drop was a good finisher. He wasn't horrible in the ring, and what he did do was executed very, very well.

Should he have been champion? Yes. At the time, yes definitely. WWE was in the midst of losing stars and/or there current stars were dwindling. Hogan won the belt from him but he was never going to reach the heights he had before then, and then he ended up moving on. Yokozuna's character helped Bret get massively over as a world champion, and like it or not, Luger's American Express was somewhat over, not massively, but over enough.

Is it true that those in WWE wanted him to get even bigger? I've read that but couldn't believe it.

He seems well-liked, a lot of people have said nice things about him, and I don't think it's just because he's passed. Kevin Nash tells a story of Yoko ripping Shane Douglas apart backstage because Douglas wouldn't wrestle on a UK tour because he was injured, and HHH had to work twice. Apparently Yoko, in front of everyone, told Shane that he was basically a piece of shit for doing it and, for the fans, unless you're about to die you get out there and work.

I liked his tag team with Owen, too.

He died practically over the road from me too in the Adelphi Hotel. Well, 5 minutes from my house. I play pool in a pool hall over the road from it at least once a week, and every singly time I go past the Adelphi I think of Yoko. I don't say a prayer or anything, of course not, but it is a bit sad.
Yokozuna lost money. He was a stale champion. He got Bret over? LOL. Bret became over by the feuds with Perfect, Piper, Bulldog, Shawn and Owen. And especially by Flair. But by feuding with Yoko? Yoko was an Anti-Star.

About him being a good guy backstage- So what? Kane was a nice guy as well. Al Snow was. Do you want them to be the champions?

Yokozuna shouldn't be champion because his character was so outdated. And even if the WWE were losing stars- Why to use YOKO to replace those stars instead of someone that was actually good?
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If anything, Bret got Yokozuna over.


Regarding his weight, it was his own personal goal to get as big as possible. IIRC, WWE took him off TV and said they would bring him back if he lost weight but he didn't want to.
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Yokozuna shouldn't have been a success – he didn't have many of the normally essential ingredients save size – but somehow everything he lacked worked for him. He had zero charisma, yet that made him more intimidating; a big, silent monster type. His girth gave even simple moves a sense of power and his character had a comedy aspect to it as well, being a stereotype sumo, after all.

He wasn't the greatest ever, but he played the role he had well for a period of time, until he became too large to move properly. It's a shame he didn't keep his weight in a safer range.
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