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**Sho'nuff** · 02-09-2013, 01:58 AM

I don't expect any of them to understand that.

He probably doesn't even know who Meltzer or Kerry Von Erich are.

MANTI TEO · 02-09-2013, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scrilla

Meltzer has said hundreds of times that Vince wanted Kerry for the national expansion in the 80's. get out of here with your nonsense Lyoto.

I kinda doubt that. If Vince really thought Kerry was the guy don't you think Kerry would have had a better WWE career then he did?

**scrilla** · 02-09-2013, 02:22 AM

Kerry had serious drug problems and was missing half a foot by the time he arrived in the WWF.

MANTI TEO · 02-09-2013, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scrilla

Kerry had serious drug problems and was missing half a foot by the time he arrived in the WWF.

Send him to rehab and the foot thing wasn't a big deal....

I just think if this was the guy you were gonna run your company around you'd do more with him when he was working for you

**scrilla** · 02-09-2013, 02:32 AM

uh it was a huge deal. back then wrestlers didn't just get sent to rehab brother. do your research.

**Sho'nuff** · 02-09-2013, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MANTI TEO

Send him to rehab and the foot thing wasn't a big deal....

I just think if this was the guy you were gonna run your company around you'd do more with him when he was working for you

Could you please start doing research before speaking on shit you know nothing about?

Kerry never wanted to leave World Class, as him & Kevin, the only remaining brother at the end, were going to run the company after Fritz passed it down to them. But, it went out of business.

Vince was going to push Kerry during his expansion. In case you're too young to realize, 1982-1984 Kerry Von Erich was totally different than 1990 Kerry Von Erich.

And Kerry had a shitload of problems.

In 1983, Kerry was arrested at DFW Airport coming back from his honeymoon in Mexico. Custom agents found him with 18 unmarked tablets in his right front pocket, 300 assorted downers like Percodan and Codeine pills in a bag in his crotch, 10 grams of weed and 6.5 grams of an undetermined white & blue powder. However, all charges were dropped.

In 1986, he was involved in a serious motorcycle accident. After 13 hours of surgery, they transplanted muscle and skin tissue from his back to save his foot. In all, he suffered a dislocated hip, crushed right ankle and various internal injuries. He was back wrestling 6 months later. Somewhere down the line, his right foot got amputated, as the surgery had a 50/50 shot at being successful and his comeback probably lessened those odds.

WCW tried to bring Kerry in 1990 but he now showed his first scheduled appearance. A few months later, Vince called and Kerry joined WWE. According to Meltzer "Vince McMahon, who no doubt wanted Kerry as much as almost anyone when he started his national expansion in 1984 (McMahon's own magazine occasionally reported on the Von Erichs while ignoring the existence of every other promotion) talked Kerry into leaving Texas.

Brutus Beefcake had just suffered his accident and Kerry took his place at Summerslam 1990, beating Mr. Perfect for the Intercontinental Title. The reign was short lived and he slowly moved down the cards. In February 1992, Fritz called WWE and said his son was having drug problems and needed rehab. At the same time, he was arrested for forging prescriptions. The much publicized drug raid of the WWE dressing room in St. Louis was largely caused on a tip that was believed to have been related to Kerry, who no-showed the card since it was during the period Titan had given him off for rehab.

Kerry made it through rehab but by the summer, WWE released him. Kerry was a time bomb ready to explode and the WWE was in no position to be able to stop it.

Again, research before you speak on shit. Kerry was sent to rehab and completed it but WWE still let him go. The guy Vince was high on in 1984 wasn't the same guy he signed in 1990. He pretty much lived through the passing of 3-4 brothers, the near death experience of Kevin, his own near death experience in 1986 and the power that came with being a superstar wrestler in Dallas in the mid 80s. All for a guy who, from all accounts, didn't even want to be a wrestler.

Say what you want about WWE and Hogan and steroids but in the 80s, there wasn't a drug that the Von Erichs wouldn't test positive for. Being young (22) with massive popularity and the ability to do what he wanted with no punishment, Kerry lived life too fast. The talent was there and Vince wanted him in his prime but even by 1984, Kerry was too whacked out to really reach his full potential.

ninealevyn · 02-18-2013, 07:46 AM

Can you PM me the link to old Observer Newsletters I love reading old dirt sheets.

**J2D** · 02-18-2013, 09:23 AM

That's pretty interesting.

I don't think he would've been brought back. Vince Sr seemed to be stuck on a few people, not really caring about Hogan like the thread says.

Vince Jr is pretty much like that now, with a few wrestlers he values. Bottom line is, it's a good thing he saw the money making in Hogan. A big, blonde, overly beefed up, golden American patriot. It's what Americans wanted at the time, and it sure did work. I won't speak on my feelings about his talent or not.

My answer still is, I don't think Vince Sr would've changed his mind. I don't know much about him to be fair, but if he's much like his son, both are stubborn on what they want to see. If Hogan didn't deliever then, he probably would've never gotten a second chance. Still a good thing Vince Jr came in with a sense of business.

MANTI TEO · 02-18-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Redead

that doesnt sound right

and as for the AWA, i dont think they would have. They had their chance to put the title on Hogan but Verne refused because Hogan wasnt much of a wrestler, and Verne was too old school to let that slide

Verne was willing to put the AWA title on Hogan but he wanted Hogan to pay him for his Japan matches. Verne's greed ruined him

MANTI TEO · 02-18-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deandre Cole

Could you please start doing research before speaking on shit you know nothing about?

Kerry never wanted to leave World Class, as him & Kevin, the only remaining brother at the end, were going to run the company after Fritz passed it down to them. But, it went out of business.

Vince was going to push Kerry during his expansion. In case you're too young to realize, 1982-1984 Kerry Von Erich was totally different than 1990 Kerry Von Erich.

And Kerry had a shitload of problems.

In 1983, Kerry was arrested at DFW Airport coming back from his honeymoon in Mexico. Custom agents found him with 18 unmarked tablets in his right front pocket, 300 assorted downers like Percodan and Codeine pills in a bag in his crotch, 10 grams of weed and 6.5 grams of an undetermined white & blue powder. However, all charges were dropped.

In 1986, he was involved in a serious motorcycle accident. After 13 hours of surgery, they transplanted muscle and skin tissue from his back to save his foot. In all, he suffered a dislocated hip, crushed right ankle and various internal injuries. He was back wrestling 6 months later. Somewhere down the line, his right foot got amputated, as the surgery had a 50/50 shot at being successful and his comeback probably lessened those odds.

WCW tried to bring Kerry in 1990 but he now showed his first scheduled appearance. A few months later, Vince called and Kerry joined WWE. According to Meltzer "Vince McMahon, who no doubt wanted Kerry as much as almost anyone when he started his national expansion in 1984 (McMahon's own magazine occasionally reported on the Von Erichs while ignoring the existence of every other promotion) talked Kerry into leaving Texas.

Brutus Beefcake had just suffered his accident and Kerry took his place at Summerslam 1990, beating Mr. Perfect for the Intercontinental Title. The reign was short lived and he slowly moved down the cards. In February 1992, Fritz called WWE and said his son was having drug problems and needed rehab. At the same time, he was arrested for forging prescriptions. The much publicized drug raid of the WWE dressing room in St. Louis was largely caused on a tip that was believed to have been related to Kerry, who no-showed the card since it was during the period Titan had given him off for rehab.

Kerry made it through rehab but by the summer, WWE released him. Kerry was a time bomb ready to explode and the WWE was in no position to be able to stop it.

Again, research before you speak on shit. Kerry was sent to rehab and completed it but WWE still let him go. The guy Vince was high on in 1984 wasn't the same guy he signed in 1990. He pretty much lived through the passing of 3-4 brothers, the near death experience of Kevin, his own near death experience in 1986 and the power that came with being a superstar wrestler in Dallas in the mid 80s. All for a guy who, from all accounts, didn't even want to be a wrestler.

Say what you want about WWE and Hogan and steroids but in the 80s, there wasn't a drug that the Von Erichs wouldn't test positive for. Being young (22) with massive popularity and the ability to do what he wanted with no punishment, Kerry lived life too fast. The talent was there and Vince wanted him in his prime but even by 1984, Kerry was too whacked out to really reach his full potential.

Just stop pretending like you know anything.

He only lived through the passing of 3 of his brother David, Mike, and Chris. Jack died two years before he was born. Second Kerry wanted to be a wrestler it was Mike who didn't have the desire to be a wrestler.

Fact is the WWE hired Kerry knowing full well about his drug problems and they were also well aware that he lost his foot.

Point is the WWF never pushed Kerry that hard for being the guy who VKM wanted over Hogan and VKM turned him into a jobber.

After he finished his stint at the Betty Ford clinic you think the WWF would have made another attempt at signing Kerry and possibly Kevin. The only person who claimed that Vince wanted to build the WWE around Kerry is DM.