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Old 01-31-2013, 09:30 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Hall, Nash, and Luger didn't screw Vince over they took the better offer more money and less days working but they all honored their contracts. Warrior held VKM up for money, no showed events, and was a lunatic.
I never said what those guys did was the same as Warrior. My whole point is wwe revisionist history of things. I know the stories which is why I'm saying just taking Vince at his word on something isn't what I tend to do.

As you said those guys did their time and left for more money, but mid 90's wwf called stars who left sell outs. Revisionist history when not taking into account the history of how the wwf became the empire it did in the 80's. That is all I'm saying about this Warrior incident which someone has explained what could have been Warrior's reasoning which is a legit reason imo.

I said the reason I believe this is that the company was going to work with Warrior on the dvd and when he didn't it became a burial. For whatever reason if it was correct or not what Warrior did it still tends to show how the wwf/e does business if you don't play ball. Bret Hart almost got his legacy remembered as a dvd with the title "Screwed: The Bret Hart" Story. WHY was this not released because Bret agreed to work with them? POLITICS and it runs rampant in this business.

Look how the company attacked Steve Austin when he "took his ball and went home". Really? The guy just didn't like the direction of the company and the company puts him on blast like that? I know Austin did blast the company creative and walked out, but it shows this company doesn't take the high road either.

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Old 01-31-2013, 09:33 PM   #52 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, it's about making money. If I was Warrior, I would have did the same thing. If I was Hall & Nash, I would have did the same thing. If I was Luger, I would have did the same thing.

But if I was Vince, Warrior would have never been brought back, as well as Luger.
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I actually agree with you about Lex Luger. That was kind of dick move he pulled on Vince Mcmahon and the same thing with Rick Rude. They did it to spite Vince when Vince never really did anything wrong to them from what I know.

The company needed Warrior coming back in early 1992 with Hogan and Sid both bouncing though. Sid was being built up as the next big thing and Hogan is well Hogan. Those are two big losses to take at one time. Remember Taker was just turned babyface too and wasn't as big as he is now although he was probably more over than Warrior or at least close at the time as Warrior's popularity took a hit.
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I actually agree with you about Lex Luger. That was kind of dick move he pulled on Vince Mcmahon and the same thing with Rick Rude. They did it to spite Vince when Vince never really did anything wrong to them from what I know.

The company needed Warrior coming back in early 1992 with Hogan and Sid both bouncing though. Sid was being built up as the next big thing and Hogan is well Hogan. Those are two big losses to take at one time. Remember Taker was just turned babyface too and wasn't as big as he is now although he was probably more over than Warrior or at least close at the time as Warrior's popularity took a hit.
IIRC, the deal with Luger leaving was due to Vince not living up to his promise of giving Luger a title reign. On top of that, Luger's contract expired, making him available to jump ship, although he and Vince had a verbal deal.

In reality, Vince let him go. It's just the fact that Luger, with the freedom to leave, never told Vince his intentions to go back to WCW and left Vince with the impression that he would stay.



IIRC, Sid left WCW the first time due to not wanting to take a required drug test. So, he went to WWF and less than a year later, quit because of a failed drug test. And technically speaking, he was sort of Warrior's replacement on 2 different occasions in WWE. So, Sid was doomed from the start because of his checkered past regarding drugs. And as someone previously said, Warrior & Bulldog might have been used as scapegoats as the steroid scandal picked up, as they had those body builder physiques and both had checkered pasts in WWF.
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Sid's timing was just horrible for him as he came right in the middle of the summer heat with the steroid scandal. I remember he got the Macho Man and Bigelow promos of being the next big star with everyone talking about him. Then got put right into an angle with Hogan/Warrior/Slaughter. Then Ric Flair comes in and takes shine away from him.

One thing that was weird was Road Warriors coming back when guys like Hogan and Sid were getting out of dodge.
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I wonder about Sid sometimes. He's either a fuck up or just has really bad luck. Because he left one company due to a drug test and signed with the competition, who were trapped in their own steroid scandal. And what makes it even worse, Sid quit in 1992 because he didn't want to serve a suspension. Really didn't make sense to me, but in hindsight, it seems sketchy, especially once the steroid scandal really took off and WWE phased the muscleheads out.

That had to be the worst run of the Road Warriors. They obviously didn't want to be there and quite honestly, made it out in the nick of time.
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I take it you didn't like Rocco lol

Going into fantasy booking for a bit. If Flair came in just in time for a match at SummerSlam it would have been something to see Flair at MSG with the big gold belt against Hulk Hogan.
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Regarding Flair, I feel they could have taken the Undertaker route with it.

Hogan/Flair at Summerslam, with Hogan winning by disqualification. Flair faces Hogan at Survivor Series and wins the title, in controversial fashion. Rematch at Tuesday in Texas, with Hogan regaining in controversial fashion. Title is held up, Flair wins Royal Rumble and faces Hogan yet again at Wrestlemania 8, which could have made for approximately 9 months of entertaining television, with Flair claiming to be the real World Champion and challenging Hogan for his belt.

Shit would have been HUGE.
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That could have worked.
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