Originally Posted by eyebrowmorroco
Iím choosing not to limit it to the early Ď90s. We all know the story; Hogan wouldnít job to Hart, he vetoed the idea. Itís far more interesting to entertain the clever ways in which Hogan continued to hold these guys down.
And isn't that pretty much the story in their time in WCW? One guy refusing to job to the other? It's the story of Hogan's career (since 1983), so it should come to no surprise why their only match was a swerve, with no actual winner. Except, we can't solely say Hogan refused to job to Bret in WCW, as Bret, going back to his ways with HBK, refused to job to Hogan.
Originally Posted by eyebrowmorroco
Yes. Itís pretty hard to keep dodging a guy when the fans are calling for it. Bret Hart, at his strongest point in WCW, was absorbed by the nWo. The turn came out of thin air.
The nWo absorbed Savage when he was at his highest point as one of the main defenders of WCW. Hogan inevitably would have had to drop the title to Savage to make him legitimate as the top threat. Keep your enemies closer.
But didn't every NWO turn come out of thin air? That's what made it that more epic because it was unexpected. At that time, regardless of his previous accomplishments, Bret shouldn't have been booked, as a babyface, to feud with Hogan, considering Sting, Goldberg and DDP were all on a roll and Kevin Nash was on the rise. And none of those guys, who were threats to Hogan, ever got absorbed by the NWO. Sting, Goldberg and DDP often came out on top against the NWO.
It wasn't as much as Hogan absorbing Bret because he was a threat, it was more so that they didn't like each other anyway, all because Bret, in his mind, thinks he was supposed to go over Hogan in 1993 and his side of the story is the only proof of that. He buried Flair because Flair wouldn't let him call the match, so Bret has a tendency to air his grievances with somebody over something so minor, petty and quite possibly untrue, because in his mind he thinks he should have been and was bigger than he was, despite having some pretty good accomplishments in the business.
And I don't think NWO absorbed Savage. Keep in mind that after Hogan joined the NWO, his only truly original feud was with Luger. Hogan/Savage and Hogan/Piper had all been done to death 7-12 years prior and overall, would have limited the push of a guy like DDP and taken the focus off the transformation of Sting. Not only that but because of their past and rather strained relationship, it made it even better, giving the idea of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em".
You can say the NWO absorbed guys but in the end, it benefited mid card talents into becoming main eventers by picking up the slack. If they kept going with Hogan/Savage, it just would have taken away from Sting's build up, as well as the rise of DDP, which came due to his feud with NWO Savage. If WCW jumped right into Bret/Hogan, where would Goldberg have been? Would the Wolfpack have been a bigger waste than it was?
Only thing Bret/Hogan or a longer Hogan/Savage feud could have provided was nostalgia but at the same time, prevented other things from happening, with guys taking a backseat because of an attempt to rehash and stretch out an old feud and having an "outsider" step in and defend a company that didn't need any more big named heroes, as in 1997-1998, they already had DDP, Sting, Goldberg, Luger, The Giant (off and on), the Steiners, Kevin Nash to an extent, Ric Flair and Roddy Piper to name a few. And with the exception of Giant and Scott Steiner, none of those guys got absorbed by the NWO.