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Old 01-19-2013, 07:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Pretty sure Savio Vega had to retire because of it.

Was such a stupid thing for the WWE to do. I remember the fans not liking it in the arenas either.
Strange how he never stopped wrestling, and still wrestles today then....


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Old 01-20-2013, 05:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i remember sitting watching raw when they started this it was kinda wierd, it defo didnt work out for wwe as it killed a few superstars
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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i actually liked the brawl for all, but it had stupid rules. why wear boxing gloves if you're going to allow takedowns, etc? dan severn dominated his match, and he was disqualified because his takedowns weren't ruled "clean". marc mero is the only guy in the whole tournament who could actually box, and of course, they took him down every chance they got.

it was hilarious watching bradshaw getting demolished.

poor dr. death got flatlined, and i believe he blew both of his knees out or something of that nature.

bart gunn was a TERRIBLE boxer, just terrible. as a man who has been around boxing all of my life, and grew up in the sport, it would be a BREEZE boxing someone of his caliber. he was an absolute joke. he threw haymaker hooks, and he had power in his left hand that none of these guys could defend against. you figure some of them would have atleast worked some mitts before putting on a pair of boxing gloves. i wouldn't dare label this tragic attempt at a hybrid sport as "boxing", because boxing is a beautiful sport, brawl for all was worse than 90% of toughman competitions i've seen, that the majority of people on this forum could have a chance at winning. butterbean is a TERRIBLE boxer as well, and you saw how quickly he destroyed bart in their match at mania. which is sad, because you can tell bart really trained hard to prepare for the match, he went and got some trainers, looked much better, but he kept his hands WAY too low, and butterbean crunched him. hilarious. i imagine vinny pazienza had to be thinking "wow, he's dead" as butterbean ejected him through the ropes, LOL.

anyway, we'll never see something like brawl for all again. it was an absolute mess. however, if done right, with the right people, it would've been a great sight to see. they picked a bunch of terrible people for it, and like i said, the only guy who had decent boxing skills was mero. scorpio wasn't that bad either, he just had no idea wtf he was trying to do lol. dan severn would've won it with relative ease had they not DQ'd him.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
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the scoring was pretty ridiculous, they weighed all the points on takedowns. Severn made it look like a joke the way he dominated his match. Considering the scoring and Dr. Death's background in amateur wrestling he should have run away with the damn thing after Severn pulled out.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i actually liked the brawl for all, but it had stupid rules. why wear boxing gloves if you're going to allow takedowns, etc? dan severn dominated his match, and he was disqualified because his takedowns weren't ruled "clean". marc mero is the only guy in the whole tournament who could actually box, and of course, they took him down every chance they got.

it was hilarious watching bradshaw getting demolished.


anyway, we'll never see something like brawl for all again. it was an absolute mess. however, if done right, with the right people, it would've been a great sight to see. they picked a bunch of terrible people for it, and like i said, the only guy who had decent boxing skills was mero. scorpio wasn't that bad either, he just had no idea wtf he was trying to do lol. dan severn would've won it with relative ease had they not DQ'd him.
regarding Severn I recall the announcers selling it as "Severn has proven his point and has no desire to continue the competition" rather than a DQ. And I don't know if Severn would have run away with it, his wrestling was comparable to Dr Death, Dr Death got to the finals of the NCAA tourney and lost to Baumgartner (one of the GOATs), Severn's striking was shit and submissions were a non factor in the competition - so they'd be even and very competitive.
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I just rewatched it. It started legit but I believe they worked all of Bart Gunn's fights after he KO'd Dr. Death.
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It was interesting and different but the execution stunk. The reason that wrestling usually delivers is that it is scripted (not fake, thank you). Boxing, UFC, etc. can be huge duds on the entertainment spectrum because they are unscripted so you may get a boring fight or a quick knockout or some kind of weird finish. A WWE/WWF crowd would be bored at an amateur wrestling contest and the same happened with the unscripted Brawl for All. To many in the audience, they thought the over the top scenes from movies like Rocky were boxing and these matches fell short of that drama.

As markdeez33 noted, these guys are not trained boxers for the most part, so it just came off as sloppy for anyone that knew anything about boxing.

Just to clear up one thing, I think Savio Vega suffered a shoulder injury and was released not too long after. The injury toll from this was huge. I don't think the WWF brass anticipated that.
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I remember hearing that the hope was to push Dr. Death, the planned/hopeful winner, and place him in a feud with Austin, to see who was the toughest man in WWE.

Problem was by making it a legit toughman contest, many guys backed out from it, knowing something would go wrong and plenty of people got injured. IIRC, someone's career was fucked due to being hurt in the Brawl For All.
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When I go back and watch the destruction of Dr. Death, it's just horrible. Poor J.R. was a BIG fan of this guy, and Dr. Death was a HUGE star in Japan. He got massacred. It was just TOO ugly. Was this really McMahon's idea? Seems like something the idiot Russo would come up with.
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When I go back and watch the destruction of Dr. Death, it's just horrible. Poor J.R. was a BIG fan of this guy, and Dr. Death was a HUGE star in Japan. He got massacred. It was just TOO ugly. Was this really McMahon's idea? Seems like something the idiot Russo would come up with.
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