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who's idea was it to make Lex Luger go by The Total Package and break people's hands leading to a Lumberjack's with Casts match?

b/c that was terrible.
Kevin Sullivan seven months before Russo came in.
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It's funny when the same statements get thrown over and over again. It's been brought up and said already in this thread. We all know Russo pumped out wacky things during the attitude era too. Only difference is those worked at the time.

Russo fans debunk the filter myth. Then when it comes to Russo without McMahon behind him - success didn't come through. Hearsay is one thing, but fact is another.

Don't care about ratings. Never have, never will. TNA's product declined when Russo was put back in charge. Now I'm not blaming him 100% for it. Only, that's just the way it went.

Fuck me, Russo marks. Stop ruining this thread already. Nobody cares. He has a stigma. So what. Now lets finally recede from the nonsense and get back to what made this thread kicking for about 10+ pages before this stuff. The hilarious and awesome moments of latter WCW.
Pretty sure they worked to some extent in WCW as the ratings went up from about a 2.5 to a 3.5 when Russo started booking, then after he left they went back down to a 2.5 then once he came back they went up again.

'The filter' is an IWC creation.

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Pretty sure they worked to some extent in WCW as the ratings went up from about a 2.5 to a 3.5 when Russo started booking, then after he left they went back down to a 2.5 then once he came back they went up again.

'The filter' is an IWC creation.
That had to do with the end of the football season. Note that at the same time WCW's ratings went up, so did WWF's. After he came back the ratings didn't went up again. Even Russo admitted that.

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You know what the weird part was? Hogan was suddenly in Hollywood attire again after he had turned back to the red and yellow prior.
He switched to hollywood like two weeks before because Russo want him to face Horace and Hogan said Hulk Hogan could never face his own blood...but hollywood could.



Actually, He hadnt been using RED and Yellow the whole time of the new blood...
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To his credit, Russo did push a lot of mid card acts during his time in WCW. Booker T, Jeff Jarett and Big Poppa Pump were booked well and moved into headlining PPVs. Not sure about turning Steiner face for a couple of months though.

Not sure whose idea it was, but Goldberg's heel turn was a gigantic mistake. He was the face of WCW at that point. At least they tied it into his history with Nash/Hall, but at the least he should have taken down Millionaire's Club AND New Blood from the start.

Vampiro was never gonna be a star, but at least they tried. Unfortunately he came across like a second rate Undertaker. Abyss would come across like a second rated Kane in TNA in 2007. Buff Bagwell was never gonna be a star too, but at least they did something with him. Unfortunately it was with a shoot storyline and subsequent feud with DDP.

Speaking of DDP, wasn't Kimberley Page's heel turn rediculous. On Nitro she got hit in the head by woman beater Jeff Jarrett's guitar. A few days later she joins Jarrett! I guess you could explain it as she was mad at DDP for allowing it to happen, but non of it came across as believable to me.

Another crazy move:
April to September 2000 - 13 world title changes (2 included an actor and a non wrestler).

The Natural Born Thrillers was a good name and clever way to get the Power Plant guys on TV.

Lance Storm was booked very well. Another ECW alumni Mike Awesome wasn't. He came in with 'Career Killer' gimmick and played the part well. Why the hell did he become a comedic babyface 'fat chick thriller' and '70's guy' withIN 12 weeks of being booked as a force to be reckoned with, who got a rare pinfall victory over Hulk Hogan. There was mileage in the career killer; changing direction stopped him in his tracks when he could have gotten over.

Kanyon's insane looking bump and subsequent turn on friend DDP a month later was preditable in a bad way. Did nothing for him, whereas it could have lasted months and given a much more satisfying pay off.
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To his credit, Russo did push a lot of mid card acts during his time in WCW. Booker T, Jeff Jarett and Big Poppa Pump were booked well and moved into headlining PPVs. Not sure about turning Steiner face for a couple of months though.

Not sure whose idea it was, but Goldberg's heel turn was a gigantic mistake. He was the face of WCW at that point. At least they tied it into his history with Nash/Hall, but at the least he should have taken down Millionaire's Club AND New Blood from the start.

Vampiro was never gonna be a star, but at least they tried. Unfortunately he came across like a second rate Undertaker. Abyss would come across like a second rated Kane in TNA in 2007. Buff Bagwell was never gonna be a star too, but at least they did something with him. Unfortunately it was with a shoot storyline and subsequent feud with DDP.

Speaking of DDP, wasn't Kimberley Page's heel turn rediculous. On Nitro she got hit in the head by woman beater Jeff Jarrett's guitar. A few days later she joins Jarrett! I guess you could explain it as she was mad at DDP for allowing it to happen, but non of it came across as believable to me.

Another crazy move:
April to September 2000 - 13 world title changes (2 included an actor and a non wrestler).

The Natural Born Thrillers was a good name and clever way to get the Power Plant guys on TV.

Lance Storm was booked very well. Another ECW alumni Mike Awesome wasn't. He came in with 'Career Killer' gimmick and played the part well. Why the hell did he become a comedic babyface 'fat chick thriller' and '70's guy' withIN 12 weeks of being booked as a force to be reckoned with, who got a rare pinfall victory over Hulk Hogan. There was mileage in the career killer; changing direction stopped him in his tracks when he could have gotten over.

Kanyon's insane looking bump and subsequent turn on friend DDP a month later was preditable in a bad way. Did nothing for him, whereas it could have lasted months and given a much more satisfying pay off.


To be fair, Kimberley went with Bishoff who she said she had been having an affair with. It tied into the Bish/Page being close friends backstage that people always brought up.

Kanyons heel turn and change into "positively Kanyon" was the best thing to happen to him in wcw. He finally got over. What messed it up was Russo didnt book the blowoff match between DDP and Kanyon, he said it was because fans knew it was gonna happen...the fact is WE WANTED ITTO HAPPEN. It could have been a great starrcade upper card match.
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Speaking of DDP, I remember him calling it quits:



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Speaking of DDP, I remember him calling it quits:

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I watch that promo often. Owns.

DDP :ddp

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