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Old 12-09-2012, 07:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Analyze This: Spot Monkey

A professional wrestler who relies mostly or entirely on high spots to wow the fans, but rarely has any technical/brawling ability is called a Spot Monkey usually in a derogatory manner.

While there is also a term high flyer, this is being less used and the line between being a Spot Monkey and a High Flyer is disappearing slowly with the loss of importance on Ring Psychology or storytelling abilities other than reduced number of maneuver usages in a match.

How do you tell a difference between a spot monkey and High Flyer? Do you think the term does justice to someone's talent? Who is your favorite Spot Monkey and high flyer?
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

i consider shane mcmahon to be a spot monkey.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

Good question. Almost all high flying maneuvers are technically spots, so all high flyers are spot monkeys I suppose. Now you don't have to be a high flyer to be a spot monkey either though (Kurt Angle for instance, reversals counter-holds etc can be spots too).

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I think Lucha is the most spot-filled product I've ever seen. They seamlessly move from one spot to the next with almost no selling or ring psychology or no story line involved whatsoever. It aggravates me to no end. TNA used to be like that a lot too.

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All in all, I think "spot monkey" is one of those overused, ill-defined wrestling terms like "jobber" and "bury" where people just apply it randomly to people they don't like. Its used the exact same way. Jeff Hardy is a spot monkey, but no one ever calls Edge, who does a lot of spots too, a spot monkey. Shawn Michaels does a lot of spots, never called a spot monkey, so I take it with a grain of salt. If someone is called a spot monkey its probably because the person doesn't like him
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

Jeff Hardy is the epitome of being a spot monkey. He relies on big spots to put on an entertaining match but that's not always the case for his matches sometimes (like his match with Kurt Angle at No Surrender 2010).

I don't think being a spot monkey is a bad thing as long as the spot goes right with the story of the match rather than being a forced spot so to speak. An example of this is Jeff Hardy vs Edge at Extreme Rules 2009. They did ladder spots to hurt one another rather than performing random spots for nothing because it went right along with their rivalry for the World Heavyweight title.

Another example is RVD vs Jerry Lynn. Their matches were often spotty but it was still entertaining watching them wrestle each other in ECW.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

Shane McMahon is really a spot monkey. I wouldn't call him a wrestler.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

What sets a high flyer apart from a spot monkey is the fact a high flyer will use big moves to enhance the story being told in the ring. They'll use their moves when it makes sense in that particular match.
A spotmonkey will use their big moves pretty much only to "wow" the crowd. For example after a 450 splash a high flyer would go for a cover. A spotmonkey however would go back on the turnbuckle to hit a Shooting Star Press, instead of logically pinning their opponent to try and win the match.

Personally I'm a big fan of spot monkeys. I love seeing them do the craziest shit. I absolutely adore wrestlers like Teddy Hart, Jack Evans, AR Fox, Ricochet, PAC etc.. (though the latter 2 aren't that much of spot monkeys anymore)
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

Shane McMahon is the dictionary definition of a spot monkey. The 50ft drops onto Big Show, the bumps against Kurt Angle, the elbow drops onto the Spanish announce table.

The guy was very entertaining, but he was kinda selfish. I'm pretty sure there were other guys - actual wrestlers - who would be willing to take those bumps and make a name for themselves. In the end, Steve Blackman got it and it did him the world of good.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

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Shane McMahon is the dictionary definition of a spot monkey. The 50ft drops onto Big Show, the bumps against Kurt Angle, the elbow drops onto the Spanish announce table.

The guy was very entertaining, but he was kinda selfish. I'm pretty sure there were other guys - actual wrestlers - who would be willing to take those bumps and make a name for themselves. In the end, Steve Blackman got it and it did him the world of good.
Yes, but he was a non-wrestling character in any case. What about guys like Jeff Hardy, what makes them a spot monkey and not a high flyer?

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Jeff Hardy is the epitome of being a spot monkey. He relies on big spots to put on an entertaining match but that's not always the case for his matches sometimes (like his match with Kurt Angle at No Surrender 2010).

I don't think being a spot monkey is a bad thing as long as the spot goes right with the story of the match rather than being a forced spot so to speak. An example of this is Jeff Hardy vs Edge at Extreme Rules 2009. They did ladder spots to hurt one another rather than performing random spots for nothing because it went right along with their rivalry for the World Heavyweight title.

Another example is RVD vs Jerry Lynn. Their matches were often spotty but it was still entertaining watching them wrestle each other in ECW.

That would be a good example as to why someone is not a spot monkey but a high flyer.

P.S: Am no jeff hardy mark but he seems to be synonymous with the word Spot Monkey around here. so had to bring him up in discussion.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Spot Monkey

I absolutely love spot monkey. I love guys who do hundreds of moves and do different moves in each match. I mean it's even better if they can keep the crowd with them, but regardless they entertain me. Much more entertaining that the old timers wrestling clinics that put me to sleep. I tired watching one hour long broadway and cudn;t get past 10 mins. They would spend half the time on the mat.
On the whole,ring psychology and storytelling in a match are over rated. I have never been able to get how you are telling a story by punching someone. All I know is it's sports entertainment now, not wrestling. Spotfests entertain me, mat wrestling doesn't.
When they do wicked aerial moves, I mark out like bat shit crazy.
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