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Greenlawler 12-01-2012 11:22 PM

Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Idealstranger has done a great job with forgotten legends. But who are some legends, for whatever reason, that have somehow been totally overlooked. They might get occasional mentions on someone's list or spotted on a you tube clip, but do not get the love they should.

I was thinking about this yesterday as I was remembering some of the great fueds of my home area and I thought of the legendary Jackie Fargo. Unless someone grew up down here or is looking up Lawler, that guy has truly gone off the radar.

Who are some guys like this, that younger fans might be interested in doing some research on? Guys so off the radar that even Starnger probably won't get around to covering? Of course their are a boatload of guys like this from the 40's, and 50's. Feel free to mention anyone from any time period.

Here are some I thought of....Stranger excuse me if you have covered, or plan to cover some of these guys, just feeling really nostalgic tonight...

Sputnik Monroe: Great southern territory worker who helped usher in racial equality in the turbulent south.
Barron Mikel Scicluna: While a jobber in the WWF for a while, still had a very colorful and meaningful career
Tojo Yammamoto: Probably one of the greatest "foreign heel" characters of an era.
Sweet Daddy Siki: A touring African American star who wrestled just about everyone, but often under the radar.
Phil Hickerson: Probably best (for better or worse) known as PY Chu Hi in the World Class area, but a steady star in the 70's and 80's who helped develop alot of guys and was part of a great tag team with a young Dennis Condrey.
Billy Jack Haynes: It seems crazy that I am even typing his name here the guy was so over in the 80's in Portland and during a WWF run.

Just a few.....

austin316 G.O.A.T 12-02-2012 12:39 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Do 'legends' get forgotten?

People still remember names like Lou Thez,Gorgeous George,Bruno Sammartino,Ric Flair,Buddy Rogers,Hulk Hogan etc

It's only the mid-carders of the past and people who had very few memorable moments that are forgotten.

xoxoPAiGEaNGELxoxo 12-02-2012 12:40 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
From what I understand, Junkyard Dog was over big time in Mid South. Many might not regard him as a legend due to not having much success in WWF or WCW but he was 1 of my favorites as a kid. I remember my eyes watering when I heard how he died. IIRC, he was either going to his daughters graduation or coming from and fell asleep behind the wheel. Just watched an old ECW PPV from Georgia in 1998 and it shocked me at how over he was with the fans when Joey Styles introduced him (along with "Dirty" Dick Slater, "Bullet" Bob Armstrong and somebody else).


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Originally Posted by austin316 G.O.A.T (Post 12329681)
Do 'legends' get forgotten?

People still remember names like Lou Thez,Gorgeous George,Bruno Sammartino,Ric Flair,Buddy Rogers,Hulk Hogan etc

It's only the mid-carders of the past and people who had very few memorable moments that are forgotten.


Dude, wrestling is bigger than WCW or WWF. There have been plenty of guys who should be recognized as legends from the territorial days that people don't consider legends because they didn't hit it big in WCW or WWF. Guys like Bobby Eaton, The Rock N Roll Express, Tommy Rich, Eddie Gilbert, Bruiser Brody, The Shiek, "Ice Man" King Parsons and plenty of others are legends but people who are so short minded that they limit their wrestling knowledge to Attitude Era, NWO or guys who are widely acknowledged that they forget others who did their thing in the business before it became mainstream.


So, are you saying a guy like Tommy Rich or Austin Idol are not legends?

austin316 G.O.A.T 12-02-2012 12:42 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Isn't it the same with any sport or profession?The more successful ones are remembered but the lesser successful ones are forgotten

xoxoPAiGEaNGELxoxo 12-02-2012 12:47 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
It depends on how you define success.

Is a guy only successful if he's headlined Wrestlemania, played in the Superbowl or won a Stanley Cup? Not to mention, there are many who achieved what modern day fans call "success" but are still forgotten.

777 12-02-2012 12:49 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Off the top of my head...and this is pretty easy because most of the other posters around here simply weren't around or don't care to look backwards.

Thunderbolt Patterson
The Crusher
Kamala
Mad Dog Vachon
Ray Stevens (for the love of god kids, look up Ray Stevens)


I could go on.

austin316 G.O.A.T 12-02-2012 12:51 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Fifty years from now,people will remember Leo Messi more than Iniesta even if he scored in the WC final and leading Spain to a victory

septurum 12-02-2012 01:01 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
You can't be a legend if you are forgotten.

xoxoPAiGEaNGELxoxo 12-02-2012 01:02 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Austin GOAT

What does that have to do with this conversation?

50 years from now, I won't remember Leo Messi for shit because I don't know who the hell he is.

We're talking about wrestling, forgotten legends in wrestling and because you didn't start watching until 1998, you have this weird way of thinking that guys are only legends if they worked Wrestlemania or drew massive ratings. Ever cross your mind that wrestling wasn't always a global attraction and many memorable moments took place in these territories that Vince has since bought all rights to, which likely eliminates the chance of younger fans to ever witness it?

Besides, you can't say 50 years from now who people will remember. Can't even say what you'll remember.





Can't be a legend if you're forgotten? What the hell kind of thinking is that?

777 12-02-2012 01:03 AM

Re: Who are some legends that have been beyond forgotten?
 
Fuck guys, it's a figure of speech, get over it.


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