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Old 12-02-2012, 02:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Dusty Rhodes

1. Ric Flair - So many great bouts and moments, especially during the Horsemen era.
2. Superstar Billy Graham - Their three matches sold out MSG and had the fans screaming for more.
3. Randy Savage - Not a whole lot of great things happened for Dusty in WWF. This however was great both match and story wise.
4. Terry Funk - Two creative geniuses at work.
5. Harley Race - You gotta be a tough sonovabitch to work Broadways with Race. Dusty did many times.
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Tully Blanchard?
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Honourable mention?
Might as well give an honorable mention to Dusty's feud with Kevin Sullivan too. They were ambitious with their creativity to say the least in that rivalry down in Florida (they also feuded in NWA). Especially the segments Sullivan was doing at the time.

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Might as well give an honorable mention to Dusty's feud with Kevin Sullivan too. They were ambitious with their creativity to say the least in that rivalry down in Florida (they also feuded in NWA). Especially the segments Sullivan was doing at the time.

I agree on both. I dont think Savage is even in a Rhodes top 10. Blanchard is number 2 to me, and Sullivan is 3. Graham is probably hm as well.
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Give a few a shot:

Ron Simmons

1-Ahmed Johnson
2-Cactus Jack
3-The Rock
4-Vader
5-Crush/Savio Vega?

Jeff Jarrett

1-Booker T
2-DDP
3-Razor Ramon
4-Kurt Angle
5-Kevin Nash

Sid

1-Hulk Hogan
2-HBK
3-Kevin Nash
4-Vader
5-Sting
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Shawn Michaels:

1) The Undertaker- They had feuds in two entirely different time periods (1997-98 and 2009-2010) and both feuds produced a ***** match. In 1997, they did the logical progression from a lumberjack match to a Hell in a Cell match. The lumberjack match was more of a kick-ass brawl. HIAC was a 5 star match and one of the greatest matches of all time. In their feud from years later, they had a ***** match at WM 25 and what many regard either a ***** or close to type of match and it ended one of the best careers ever. What really stands out to me is how they were able to have two completely different types of ***** matches with HIAC and then the WM 25 match. Two entirely different types of matches and two guys that had evolved and were different workers in their later feud. Impressive. Epic feuds both times around.

2) Chris Jericho- Two different feuds again. First one in 2003 centered around Jericho once being a huge HBK fan and now wanting to end Shawn's career. Good stuff with Jericho claiming he was now more talented. Their match at WM 19 was the first match they *ever* had with one another. Awesome match, especially when you consider that was the first time they ever locked up. 2008 their feud was more "personal." What I like to refer as the appetizer in their 2008 feud was the match at Judgement Day, which was a nice, somewhat short match in which they shook hands afterwards. The hate wasn't quite there yet. After Jericho hit Shawn's wife, that amped up the intensity of the feud. They had a good match at GAB in which Shawn had one of the biggest blade-jobs in quite sometime. Then, they had the best match of this feud at No Mercy with what was in my opinion a ***** ladder match. Great match. Then, at Unforigven they had a non-sanctioned street-fight. Great brawl from start to finish in which we saw a violent side of Shawn that we had never really seen before. Great feud.

3) Triple H- On the cusp of Shawn returning for the first time in 4.5 years. Their match at SummerSlam 2002 is one of my favorite matches ever. To see someone come back from a 4.5 year absence from the ring and have that great of a match was insane. I didn't think it was possible after such a long absence. They had great heat, too. Teasing the DX comeback, only for Triple H to turn heel really pissed the fans off, as they were jonseing for a DX reunion in the worst way. I enjoyed their HIAC match, but it ran alittle long at around 45 minutes. If they just cut the match around 10 minutes shorter, it would have been much better, IMO.

What could have been with Austin if Shawn didn't suffer the back injury..
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sorry guys I am not giving this a rest I just really enjoy listing this stuff about the classic stars. So forgive me if I keep adding...

Jimmy Superfly Snuka

1. Ray Stevens: Probably his hottest fued although not the greatest Superfly moment
2. Don Muraco: No one will ever forget the image from MSG of him jumping off the cage onto Muraco in an era where that was the highest of spots. Mick Foley and the WWE history machine have not let us forget for sure, and rightfully so in this case.

3. Roddy Piper: Coconut anyone?
4. Jesse Ventura: Their early career fued in the Pacific Northwest elevated them both and got them noticed by rival promoters.
5. Bob Backlund: Few people remember the heel Snuka, he was great. Fewer people remember that in this case Snuka missed the death leap from the top of the cage during this fued.
HM: Bull Ramos, Ripper Collins, Lou Albano

Kamala

1. The Undertaker: Probably his most well known angle. He will always be remembered as one of the Takers WM foes.
2. Andre The Giant: Totally forgot this one on the Andre list. I should have had Kamala there. Their fued climaxed with an awesome cage match where Andre sat on his chest once and Kamala kicked out. Before a second sitting did him in.
3. Jerry Lawler: Lawler helped create the Kamala character, and then had several epic runs with the big man.
4. Brusier Brody: As for many of the monsters of that era, he was put up against Brody and chaos ensued.
5. The Von Erichs: As Akbar's main hand in Devastation Inc. it was a given he would tussle with the "chosen family" of World Class
HM: Jake Roberts, Great Kabuki, JYD
Completely agree with Snuka, but I'd probably swap the top two around. The whole Muraco/Snuka thing is historic, and some of the 'Superfly's' interviews were so damn intense.

And as for Kamala, he never fought Undertaker at WrestleMania. Just thought I'd point that out.
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Completely agree with Snuka, but I'd probably swap the top two around. The whole Muraco/Snuka thing is historic, and some of the 'Superfly's' interviews were so damn intense.

And as for Kamala, he never fought Undertaker at WrestleMania. Just thought I'd point that out.
Thanks Gaz, I could have sworn Kimala and Taker fought at WM....Ooh well thank you for correcting my error.
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Give a few a shot:

Ron Simmons

1-Ahmed Johnson
2-Cactus Jack
3-The Rock
4-Vader
5-Crush/Savio Vega?

Jeff Jarrett

1-Booker T
2-DDP
3-Razor Ramon
4-Kurt Angle
5-Kevin Nash

Sid

1-Hulk Hogan
2-HBK
3-Kevin Nash
4-Vader
5-Sting
Geee, thanks for your input. I would agree if this were an only WWF thing. That's probably what you were going for. But if you added their entire career I might swap up some.

As for Jarrett, you cannot have a Jarrett list without Robert Fuller or the Moondogs. I think Jarrett spent two years in each of these fueds. He won his first national acclaim in his fued with the Moondogs by teaming with Lawler in PWI's fued of the year.

With Simmons I think probably his WWF fueds were his best and I might just stand pat and agree with what you have.

Sid has to have Lawler in their somewhere. He wreslted as Lord Humongous before he was Sid.
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Geee, thanks for your input. I would agree if this were an only WWF thing. That's probably what you were going for. But if you added their entire career I might swap up some.

As for Jarrett, you cannot have a Jarrett list without Robert Fuller or the Moondogs. I think Jarrett spent two years in each of these fueds. He won his first national acclaim in his fued with the Moondogs by teaming with Lawler in PWI's fued of the year.

With Simmons I think probably his WWF fueds were his best and I might just stand pat and agree with what you have.

Sid has to have Lawler in their somewhere. He wreslted as Lord Humongous before he was Sid.
Didn't get much Tennessee territory action here in Canada. Never saw those feuds. I went with internationally televised feuds from WCW/WWF mostly. It was kinda tough thinking of feuds with Jarrett cuz mostly he had a bunch of really short feuds. Almost thought to put David Arquette as a joke. :P
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Rick 'The Model' Martel:

1. Tito Santana. Not a big fan of Strike Force, but when they broke up the feud was awesome. This is what I miss about tag teams, not just the teams themselves, but the natural rivalries that happened afterwards.

2. Jake 'The Snake' Roberts. Talked about this in my Jake Roberts post, but it was a great rivalry. Some people say the blindfold match at Mania is one of the worst in history, but I think it is one of the best, guess just a difference in opinion.

3. Shawn Michaels. This was great, one of the best heel vs heel rivalries, the no punches to the face match, was awesome, what a brilliant and logical stipulation.

4. Tatanka. Martel stole Tatanka's feathers, this was when Tatanka was getting pushed, so Martel never really got the upper hand on him. Nevertheless, a pretty decent rivalry.

5. Ric Flair. I don't know too much about this feud, but I have watched the Tokyo match champion vs champion and there was some good storytelling. They were also involved in a tag team match and some other matches. Generally champion vs champion makes for a good feud. I wonder what would've happened if AWA and NWA would have unified.
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sorry guys I am not giving this a rest I just really enjoy listing this stuff about the classic stars. So forgive me if I keep adding...

Jimmy Superfly Snuka

1. Ray Stevens: Probably his hottest fued although not the greatest Superfly moment
2. Don Muraco: No one will ever forget the image from MSG of him jumping off the cage onto Muraco in an era where that was the highest of spots. Mick Foley and the WWE history machine have not let us forget for sure, and rightfully so in this case.
3. Roddy Piper: Coconut anyone?
4. Jesse Ventura: Their early career fued in the Pacific Northwest elevated them both and got them noticed by rival promoters.
5. Bob Backlund: Few people remember the heel Snuka, he was great. Fewer people remember that in this case Snuka missed the death leap from the top of the cage during this fued.
HM: Bull Ramos, Ripper Collins, Lou Albano
You forgot all about Colonel DeBeers. Without a doubt, that was one of the AWA's biggest feuds in the mid-to-late 80s. Especially when they put in the racial aspect of DeBeers refusing to wrestle Snuka because of the color of his skin, but had no problem with jumping him and piledriving him onto the concrete with that face-first maneuver he used.



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The Fabulous Ones

1. The Moondogs: Just pure bloodbaths, my favorite was when old Jackie Fargo came back for a night to brawl with the Dogs.
2. The Sheepherders: A classic fued that took place over a full decade in different territories and included 5 different Sheepherder teams.
3. Dirty Rhodes (Roger Smith)/ Don Bass: Bass and Rhodes worked as several different hooded tag teams that all lost loser leave town matches after hot fueds with the Fabs, only to reappear as a "different" masked combo. The Interns, Assasins and A-Team.
4. The Rock n Roll Express: Although they actually only wrestled once the rivalry was always in the mind of fans. They were the first two of the wave of pretty boy tag teams to hit the territories in the 80's. The Fabs were for older fans (ladies), the RNR intended for younger audiences.
5. The New York Dolls aka Rick McGraw and Troy (Dream Machine) Graham; This was the Fabs first major fued and storyline and the Dolls were perfect foils.
HM: The Road Warriors, Lawler and Dundee, The Grapplers/ Dirty White Boys
To me, one match doesn't make a rivalry. The two were very comparable, but it just wasn't there. Take the RnR off the list and replace them with the Road Warriors.


"Hands of Stone" Rugged Ronnie Garvin

1. Ric Flair...The rugged blue-collar slugger versus the playboy World champion. This was one of Flair's more underrated feuds in the 80s and Garvin worked well with him.

2. Jake "The Snake" Roberts...I saw many a battle with these two on Georgia Championship Wrestling over the GCW TV title. These two tried to kill one another.

3. Randy "Macho Man" Savage...This one took place during the ICW days and Garvin was almost always a top challenger for Savage's ICW championship.

4. Midnight Express/Jim Cornette...The night Cornette threw a fireball in Garvin's face showed just how intense this feud was. The following matches against Big Bubba and then against Cornette were absolutely great angles.

5. Greg Gagne...In the dying days of the AWA, I thought this was a solid feud over the International TV title. Two solid veterans that (at the time this was Garvin's heel turn) were polar opposites of each other. Too bad their blow-off match at Superclash III was underwhelming.

HM: Ox Baker, Arn Anderson, Greg Valentine
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