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Old 11-21-2012, 12:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Analyze This: Commentator's contributions to a great show/match

Honestly I feel as though the last new commentator that belonged at the table commentating was Joey Styles. The man did it all on his own and with more excitement and atmosphere than anyone out there today.

In fact wrestling commentating has gotten so much worse. If you look back to the days of Sole, and listen to the man call a match in the ring, you feel as though you're watching a real fight that really matters. Come on up through the years and now we've got crap all across the board. I like Mcguiness, I think he's got talent when it comes to talking and an ability to stick to talking about what's going on inside the ring. But he sounds.. apprehensive. I can almost tell that he wishes he was in the ring and not where he's at. I think Taz could be so much better a commentator than he's been. The guy has the knowledge of wrestling to be able to call an hour long broadway match and never miss the name of a single move. He has the talking ability, he's very natural. But they play him as a goofball, and that's just not taz, it doesn't fit. Cole, is cole. I've disliked him since austin and Rocky were bullying him around back in the 90's.

As was said before the real beacon right now would be JBL, but the people he's commentating with bring the team down dramatically. Not too mention the guy has a lot of business dealings outside of the WWE, he left for a reason. I don't see him sticking around forever at the booth.

To add to vibe's point about older commentators either being wrestlers of commentators from different territories, they also got them from football, baseball, and other pro sports. They got actual play by play guys that knew what they were doing and they made sure they knew what wrestling was (9times out of 10 at least) and guys that had been wrestling managers (heenan/cornette) that they already knew could fill air space and talk about wrestling comfortably. For the last 10 years it seems we've gotten people that just got out of school for broadcasting and knew absolutely nothing about wrestling. Similar to the situation with having hollywood writers that don't know wrestling write the product.

Hopefully something changes, the announcing really is what sells the product to the home viewer and the casual fan. If they aren't top notch the rest of your show rarely looks top notch either.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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1.Watch any Stone Cold segment with Jim Ross on commentatory and a segment without JR on commentatory-One can feel the difference

AW YEAH!!! AUSTIN'S GOT MCMAHON!!! AUSTIN'S GOT MCMAHON-Zamboni Segment

Aw, son of a bitch!"-The Higher Power

IT'S GONNA BE THE ROCK! IT'S GONNA BE AUSTIN! ONE ON ONE! AT WRESTLE MANIA
MAH GAAAAAAWD!


Stone Cold had the greatest save-ins in history and part of it is due to JR screaming STONE COLD STONE COLD STONE COLD



Compare it to a guy who remarked on Christian's return-It's Christian


Honestly i respect J.R. a lot but his favoritism and bias in favor of Austin was unbelievable unprofessional.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Honestly i respect J.R. a lot but his favoritism and bias in favor of Austin was unbelievable unprofessional.
JR was biased towards SCSA the same way Lawler was biased towards the Rock.I loved the constant arguments between JR and Jerry everytime SCSA and Rock were involved in segments.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:15 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: Analyze This: Commentator's contributions to a great show/match

I think it goes without saying that commentary has gotten worse, but there are reasons that do not all fall on the shoulders of the commentators themselves.

I think first and foremost it is Vince's fault. Let's not be mistaken about this...Vince, or a rep for him are talking into their ears. They are telling them what they want them to say. Vince is the one concerned with everything but the match itself.

Second, aside from JR the "entertainment era" hurt things a little. It just feels different with men calling matches that no one really pretends are not scripted. Back when Solie and Russell were interviewing the heels they asked different questions than today, they brought the heat out.

The product is suffering. For years the WWE gave JR something to crow about, today it just feels flat because the intensity is not there in the product.
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I miss a lot of the older commentating like Monsoon/Ventura, Monsoon/Heenan, Gordon Solie, heck I even miss Schiavone. Not entirely sure what happened but commentators definetely can add and honestly sometimes I only watch matches dependant on who's commentating.
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No it has gotten horrible.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Commentry now is beyond a joke.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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A great/passionate commentator can help aid in the television audience's suspension of disbelief, even when the matches/angles at the time are phoney and boring. A guy like JR could get you invested in basically anything. People like Michael Cole and modern Jerry Lawler are generally apathetic towards the WWE product, so if they don't care then why should I? A great commentator is an important attribute for a televised wrestling company to have and can make a huge difference to the presentation and overall viewer perception of the product.
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At the end of seaon 3, Penny realized that the guys she used to date were really dumb (like Zack) and that Leonard "ruined" her. That could probably be extended to include her girlfriends. She realized that they weren't the bright bulbs in the chandelier either and gradually distanced herself from them. She mentioned that she was only seeing Zack again so she wouldn't be alone on New Year's eve. If she was still friendly with her girlfriends should would have been able to hang out with them, unless they all had boyfriends and that made Penny feel excluded. But since she was seeing Zack again, it would have made sense for them to have made plans for New Years with her friends if she was still hanging out with them. Since she and Zack ended up going to the comic book store, it seems like she didn't really have a group to hang out with anymore, other than the guys.
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Honestly i respect J.R. a lot but his favoritism and bias in favor of Austin was unbelievable unprofessional.
Yes I'm sure that was all completely JR's decision and not some crazy company idea to promote the company's biggest ever star over everyone else to make shitloads of profit.
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