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post #51 of 128 (permalink) Old 11-12-2012, 08:02 PM
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Re: Biggest mistakes in the Attitude Era?

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Absolutely none. The era was gold, and deep, deep down - none of us would change a damn thing... Apart from Vince McMahon winning the WWF Title... that was horrible.
Obviously, you didn't watch from start to finish.

Too many title changes, dropping the ball with The Alliance, Rikishi running down Austin, failure to push any ECW talents and pretty much burying Booker T.

Big difference is, there were so many good moments that they outnumbered the bad. And nothing I listed was bad, it just could have been ten times better.
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Regarding the Kane title reign:

He was never meant to be the guy to hold the lengthy reign or properly main event like Austin, Rock, HHH etc. Vince McMahon had been trying to get one over on Austin ever since there feud began. He knew that if he invested in Kane and add the first blood stipulation (knowing Kane is masked), he'll finally get over on his rival and he did.

Kane wasn't on the level of the Austins, The Rocks, the Triple Hs, The Undertakers etc. which is why he rarely ever beat them. So when Austin went one on one with him the following night he was always going to win (hence why Bearer and Vince never wanted Kane to accept Austins challenge)

I thought it was a good angle and definitely wasn't anywhere near one of the biggest mistakes.
Kane really didn't have to be a main event guy on the level of Austin, Rock etc. or hold the title for very long. He could have won the title at KOTR and dropped it in a main event with Austin at the next PPV. Austin would have still been in the main event with him to draw the money. I just think a one day title run is kind of a joke especially when you are trying to sell people on Kane being a monster and he can't even hold on to the title for more than one day.
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Obviously, you didn't watch from start to finish.

Too many title changes, dropping the ball with The Alliance, Rikishi running down Austin, failure to push any ECW talents and pretty much burying Booker T.

Big difference is, there were so many good moments that they outnumbered the bad. And nothing I listed was bad, it just could have been ten times better.
I don't really consider anything past WrestleMania 17 the Attitude Era.
The frequent title changes, and surprises such as Rikishi being the one who ran down Austin, was what made the Era great imo. You never saw anything coming.




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Bret wouldn't have fit much longer in the Attitude Era. He was a wrestler first and foremost.
Yes he would've. 1997 was "attitude era" and Bret had the two best feuds of that year with Austin and HBK.

In fact, Bret was absolutely kicking ass in the attitude era with his new bitter character.

You act like you had to be a comedian or a shock character who rapes midget hands or some dumb shit to be in the attitude era. Bret could've continued what he was already doing in 97. In fact a bitter Bret would've been a great foil for the Rock and Jericho in 99-00. He could've continued the DX feud and had a proper feud with the face/tweener HHH of 98 too.
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Re: Biggest mistakes in the Attitude Era?

right to censer was just crap
having undertaker walkout on wwf just before unorgiven 1999 having goldust as a main event character
austin vs big show on raw before wm 15
i hated the rocks heel turn in 98/99 didnt like it at all
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Re: Biggest mistakes in the Attitude Era?

I always felt like Taz was wasted. I don't think realistically he would have been a main eventer, but he could have been a guy who was constantly in the IC title division with the same gimmick. He should have been in the Jericho/Benoit bracket, IMO.
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I always felt like Taz was wasted. I don't think realistically he would have been a main eventer, but he could have been a guy who was constantly in the IC title division with the same gimmick. He should have been in the Jericho/Benoit bracket, IMO.
Agreed. I remember being pumped about Taz going to the WWF. Part of me was alittle surprised because Taz is a small guy. I thought he came in on a very good match with Kurt Angle at Royal Rumble 2000 and he was off on the right track. Sadly, outside of that match, the only other feud I remember of him in the WWF was his feud with JR, which then naturally evolved into a match with Lawler at SummerSlam 2000. They could have done a much better job booking him after the Angle match. He should have been booked as a monster/part MMA/ass-kicking heel. Have him work his way up to the IC Title and see if he can get over as a main eventer after a run with the IC belt.


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Yes he would've. 1997 was "attitude era" and Bret had the two best feuds of that year with Austin and HBK.

In fact, Bret was absolutely kicking ass in the attitude era with his new bitter character.

You act like you had to be a comedian or a shock character who rapes midget hands or some dumb shit to be in the attitude era. Bret could've continued what he was already doing in 97. In fact a bitter Bret would've been a great foil for the Rock and Jericho in 99-00. He could've continued the DX feud and had a proper feud with the face/tweener HHH of 98 too.
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Bret just hated that direction and hated his heel character. He never wanted to be a part of that era, and if he didn't want it- I don't think that Bret could have done it. It's hard to do somethin/Gimmick that you don't like, and it's a shame because that character was probably the best thing that Bret has done.
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Re: Biggest mistakes in the Attitude Era?

Vince winning the Royal Rumble springs to mind :P

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Re: Biggest mistakes in the Attitude Era?

Devaluing their titles is #1 to me. Once you go that route you can never get that prestige back. Before attitude era their titles were prestigious like ROH's or Japan's
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