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Old 11-30-2012, 01:36 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Too lazy to read through all 10 pages, but in case nobody has stated the obvious yet...

the biggest mistake made in the AE? choosing to end it..
Nah, you got to evolve.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:46 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Nah, you got to evolve.

Hasn't been for the better though has it? Thats the reason the PG Era exists - because the WWE is in decline and children believe in it/can become excited to 'real life superheroes' with poor jokes, crap storylines, crap wrestlers and cheesy gimmicks.
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Biggest mistakes for me in the Attitude Era (up to 2000 where I'm watching up to therefore can remember) are:


- Lack of PPVs invoving more than 3 of the top stars in a single match

- Too many short reigns

- Vince being the higher power - Not much of a twist, someone external would have been more of a shock

- Vince winning the Rumble in 99 and withdrawing his position at Wrestlemania therefore giving it to 2nd place (Austin). Surely the owner would have known this

- X-Pac, Chyna, Mr Ass and Road Dogg fighting in 99 at one of the PPVs for the rights to DX in a tag team match only to get back together a couple of weeks later. This happened a little bit

- The Corporate Ministry storyline should have lasted longer. It just ended without explanation

- GTV. They should of had a replacement for Goldust
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Hasn't been for the better though has it? Thats the reason the PG Era exists - because the WWE is in decline and children believe in it/can become excited to 'real life superheroes' with poor jokes, crap storylines, crap wrestlers and cheesy gimmicks.
The problem is- They never REALLY ended it. Even at 2003 you've had Austin and Rock. You need to move on. That's by the way, what's wrong today. They don't evolve. Stop with Cena.
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The problem is- They never REALLY ended it. Even at 2003 you've had Austin and Rock. You need to move on. That's by the way, what's wrong today. They don't evolve. Stop with Cena.
I agree that Cena has been top dog for too long and characters these days aren't developed enough, but the PG Era defines everything. The company took a financial motive over continuing a historical one. All the company is bothered about nowadays is money. With it being aimed at children and Cena being the good guy, no risks are involved. People are always being born meaning there will always be fans in the PG Era. Cena will be new to kids becoming more interested in wrestling and the older generation watch it because of lack of alternatives. Cena's worked for the last 7 years, so why not another 5 if he's still wrestling?

EDIT: Just watched Royal Rumble 2000. Cactus Jack/Mankind should have won that, I suppose thats what HHH gets for nobbing the owners daughter though

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Seen it mentioned but for me it was the handling of the Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness/Corporate Ministry/Higher Power angle. It was mishandled a couple times. The quasi-Satanic Undertaker was legitimate scary. The angle made a few directionless characters relevant: Viscera, Mideon, you could even argue Faarooq and Bradshaw. There were three major mistakes in my opinion:

Mistake #1- Overbloating the group. The Brood were hot at the time and had a gothic gimmick so while they were natural from that standpoint, it just seemed to lose them in the shuffle. I actually liked the angle with Christian ratting them out and it would have been effect to them excommunicate them. It would have set the Brood up as faces and rivals for the mid-card members of the Ministry.

Mistake #2- Overbloating by merging with the Corporation. It led to weird turns for other wrestlers and hurried angles to cut the numbers in the group.

Mistake #3- The Higher Power reveal. It made no sense. Vince was probably the 228th choice from a common sense perspective. They eventually paid this off by saying it was the reason Stephanie stayed married to Triple H, but I just refuse to believe that was the plan all along. Jake Roberts would have made more sense. Linda McMahon would have made more sense (she was tired of the shenanigans of her kids?). Heck even Paul Heyman would have made more sense.
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Seen it mentioned but for me it was the handling of the Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness/Corporate Ministry/Higher Power angle. It was mishandled a couple times. The quasi-Satanic Undertaker was legitimate scary. The angle made a few directionless characters relevant: Viscera, Mideon, you could even argue Faarooq and Bradshaw. There were three major mistakes in my opinion:

Mistake #1- Overbloating the group. The Brood were hot at the time and had a gothic gimmick so while they were natural from that standpoint, it just seemed to lose them in the shuffle. I actually liked the angle with Christian ratting them out and it would have been effect to them excommunicate them. It would have set the Brood up as faces and rivals for the mid-card members of the Ministry.

Mistake #2- Overbloating by merging with the Corporation. It led to weird turns for other wrestlers and hurried angles to cut the numbers in the group.

Mistake #3- The Higher Power reveal. It made no sense. Vince was probably the 228th choice from a common sense perspective. They eventually paid this off by saying it was the reason Stephanie stayed married to Triple H, but I just refuse to believe that was the plan all along. Jake Roberts would have made more sense. Linda McMahon would have made more sense (she was tired of the shenanigans of her kids?). Heck even Paul Heyman would have made more sense.

Agree mostly, but Jake Roberts? Jake Roberts of 1992 would've made sense. By 1999 or whatever, Jake Roberts was a complete mess and washed up, sadly. There's no way they'd give a guy like that a huge role, at that point in time.
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Maybe not enough wrestling, and Austin's heel turn coud've been better. no need for that handshake with Vince.
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Agree mostly, but Jake Roberts? Jake Roberts of 1992 would've made sense. By 1999 or whatever, Jake Roberts was a complete mess and washed up, sadly. There's no way they'd give a guy like that a huge role, at that point in time.
I'm not sure how truthful it was but I've seen on this board and other "dirtsheets" that Jake was considered. That's the only reason I listed him. It would have been surprising and interesting. In reality, his addictions would have been a huge issue.
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I'm not sure how truthful it was but I've seen on this board and other "dirtsheets" that Jake was considered. That's the only reason I listed him. It would have been surprising and interesting. In reality, his addictions would have been a huge issue.

Wow, I just have a hard time believing that rumor that he was considered.

Now if he would've kept himself in shape and stayed clean over the years, he probably would've still been going strong in 1999, and would've been a great choice. But in reality, he was done after 1992-93. His WWF comeback in 1996 was sad, and he likely was MUCH worse by 1999.
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I'm not sure how truthful it was but I've seen on this board and other "dirtsheets" that Jake was considered. That's the only reason I listed him. It would have been surprising and interesting. In reality, his addictions would have been a huge issue.

Wow, I just have a hard time believing that rumor that he was considered.

Now if he would've kept himself in shape and stayed clean over the years, he probably would've still been going strong in 1999, and would've been a great choice. But in reality, he was done after 1992-93. His WWF comeback in 1996 was sad, and he likely was MUCH worse by 1999.
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