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Old 10-23-2012, 02:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Forgotten Legends72: Larry Zbyszko

Naming himself after one of the Gods of wrestling, Stanislaus Zbyszko being trained by and a protege of Bruno Sammartino, he had to wait for ten years to break out of Sammartino's shadow and what a break out it was!

Debuting in WWWF having been trained by the Living Legend Bruno Sammartino, he found little success both in and outside WWWF with only a WWWF tag team run inspite of feuding with Abdullah the Butcher and Superstar Billy Graham, he had to break out and challenged Bruno for a match threatening retirement if turned down. The match did not go well for Larry and he took to chair shots leaving Bruno in a pool of blood. Overnight, from being a Bruno Protege he became one of the most despised heels in prowrestling to the extent that his cars were damaged, the taxis he traveled were overturned, he was stabbed twice while he continued his feud with his mentor calling himself the New living legend. This feud ended in 1980 in a steel cage match that he lost, after a couple of years.

He joined NWA leaving WWWF with the claim to have retired Bruno Sammartino and feuded with Orndroff unsuccessfully to win the NWA title which he finally bought from Killer Tim Brooks for $25000 once he had beat Orndroff. Talk about money in the bank cashing in! He was however forced to compete in a tournament as the title was vacated which he won beating Mr.Wrestling II.

He left NWA after the two reigns and joined AWA getting the AWA american heavyweight title for which he feuded with Sgt.Slaughter mostly irritating the fans and the Sarge by delaying the match whenever Sarge was in control continuing as a despised heel.

He moved on to AWA world heavyweight title scene feuding with Nick Bockwinkel which culminated when he helped Curt Hennig beat him for the title. He was "suspended" from AWA for his interference and he left to NWA now having retired two legends, Bruno Sammartino and Nick Bockwinkel where he failed to get a shot at Flair and came back to AWA winning the heavyweight title in a battle royal using typical heel tactics like avoiding confrontation, hiding and finally it was down to him and Zenk whom he beat after a lot of two and fro action. He feuded with Sarge, Sammartino's son and Mr.Saito for the title to whom he lost it finally.

He joined WCW after this and his career per se was lackluster after this winning the Tag and US title once each.

A man who made wrestling interesting for almost two decades with his persistent opportunistic heel attitude and persona, a forgotten legend relegated to the announce table for most of us.
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The Living Legend.I have been to numerous live shows at NY so I would have seen him wrestle but don't remember a lot about him
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He was never that great in the ring, I'd hardly call him a legend.

My findest memory of larry is growing up with him behind the announce booth in WCW. Good times.
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He was never that great in the ring, I'd hardly call him a legend.

My findest memory of larry is growing up with him behind the announce booth in WCW. Good times.
Ofcourse, I have never seen him wrestle other than youtubes. He is legendary to me for being able to work the crowd enough to get stabbed twice.
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Anyone who hasn't seen it should check out the cage match with Bruno. It's got big-time feel and is well worked, keeping in mind the in-ring style at the time. The crowd is hot as hell.
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Ofcourse, I have never seen him wrestle other than youtubes. He is legendary to me for being able to work the crowd enough to get stabbed twice.
Makes the crowd members just morons. I could be a jobber and call a fan a cunt to his face, just because I get stabbed doesn't make me a legend.
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This is larry z's current view on how to save wrestling. Pretty interesting imo:




Also his appearances on "last call with scott hall" videos on YT are worth watching especially if you want to have a laugh. He can be really funny sometimes, his commentary along with scott hall on the Hogan/warrior wrestlemania match is hilarious imo.

He also calls out Jericho and he often makes fun of Flair in these Scott hall videos from a couple years ago.

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To me Zbyszko is a product of his own self promotion. He was good on the mic, which also added to this illusion of him being a "great one". The fact is the only thing special about his non AWA runs was his fued with Bruno. But how many guys turned on Bruno and got the same heat? Several. It was like the WWF loved that pattern and anyone could have hit Bruno with a chair and gotten a heated cage match in return. Heck they could have had Tony Garea or Rene Goulet do the same angle. They did it with Spiros Arion not two years before.

Look, he from what I remember he married into Gagne's family. That in itself assured him AWA success. Verne loved and depended on his family. He trusted them so he pushed them.

He was always spotlighted on television as a top heel but he was really a glorified manager talking up his protoges. He was not a believable contender and floundered around the AWA for years.

When Henning left and it was time for a new top heel. AWA who at the time was leaning heavily on an overweight Slaughter, a 58 year old Von Rashcke, and a young Tom Zenk, as their most popular faces. There was no other viable heels and who else was Gagne going to put the strap on? He did what Verne always did put it on family. In fact, his title reign was met with a collective eye roll of the few fans the AWA had left, and while obviously not the reason the company folded it did nothing to help a company in desperate need of something.

He then bank rolled all those years of getting a favorable AWA push into a WCW career and he rode on the shoulders of Arn Anderson. In spite of the lack of major heels at the time, once again he was not viable enough to use on the top.


Very few people bought a ticket to see Zbyszko imo, except his match with Bruno, and we all know that had little to do with Larry.

Maybe I am being hard, I just hated him on Nitro and how he talked about his glorious career that really had little to do with his talent, and more to do with his family and friends.

This is the best case of a commentator using his pulpit to glorify his career. He was not a major star, except for that one run with Bruno.

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Larry had heat beyond all heat when he turned on Bruno. It was the stuff of legend.



There have also been a lot of wrestlers to use the name "Zbyszko" who is a Polish Knight sort of like Percivale. None of them actually had the last name "Zbyszko", but it has become a long standing tradition in wrestling.

The first was Stanislaus Zbyszko who was an early world champion, was the only non Indian wrestler to legit wrestle Great Gama to a draw (though many years later he did a worked squash match for Gama), and even had a special rules victory over Frank Gotch which is rarely referenced in the Gotch stories.

Then there was his brother Wladek Zbyszko.

In later years there was Firpo Zbyszko, Bill Zbyszko (Bill Dromo), Karol/Karl Zbyszko, Larry Zbyszko, and now the recently debuted Tim Zbyszko who is Larry's son.

BTW - my spelling of Zybyszko is in reference to typos on some AWA shows in the late 1980s concerning Larry. I used to think it was intentional, but later learned that it was merely a typo by the production crew.

Here is a video of Larry's son Tim in his debut match last April.

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To me Zbyszko is a product of his own self promotion. He was good on the mic, which also added to this illusion of him being a "great one". The fact is the only thing special about his non AWA runs was his fued with Bruno. But how many guys turned on Bruno and got the same heat? Several. It was like the WWF loved that pattern and anyone could have hit Bruno with a chair and gotten a heated cage match in return. Heck they could have had Tony Garea or Rene Goulet do the same angle. They did it with Spiros Arion not two years before.

Look, he from what I remember he married into Gagne's family. That in itself assured him AWA success. Verne loved and depended on his family. He trusted them so he pushed them.

He was always spotlighted on television as a top heel but he was really a glorified manager talking up his protoges. He was not a believable contender and floundered around the AWA for years.

When Henning left and it was time for a new top heel. AWA who at the time was leaning heavily on an overweight Slaughter, a 58 year old Von Rashcke, and a young Tom Zenk, as their most popular faces. There was no other viable heels and who else was Gagne going to put the strap on? He did what Verne always did put it on family. In fact, his title reign was met with a collective eye roll of the few fans the AWA had left, and while obviously not the reason the company folded it did nothing to help a company in desperate need of something.

He then bank rolled all those years of getting a favorable AWA push into a WCW career and he rode on the shoulders of Arn Anderson. In spite of the lack of major heels at the time, once again he was not viable enough to use on the top.


Very few people bought a ticket to see Zbyszko imo, except his match with Bruno, and we all know that had little to do with Larry.

Maybe I am being hard, I just hated him on Nitro and how he talked about his glorious career that really had little to do with his talent, and more to do with his family and friends.

This is the best case of a commentator using his pulpit to glorify his career. He was not a major star, except for that one run with Bruno.
Ok, for a minute I saw myself reading similar stuff about Triple H in 10 years. Well, he had his connections but none of the other guys got through who had done that to Bruno. It was self promotion and moniker of living legend ofcourse but nonetheless he had that heel heat which was used by Gagne more than Gagne thrusting it on him just coz he was his son in law in my humble opinion.

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Makes the crowd members just morons. I could be a jobber and call a fan a cunt to his face, just because I get stabbed doesn't make me a legend.
Well, I wonder why all the jobbers are still jobbers then. The could have easily broken through calling fans cunt and we would be up to our throats with Rock and Austin. Maybe you do not consider him a legend and have lived through his era which I respect but calling crowd moron is a bit too much especially when he had his car destroyed and his taxis attacked at one point. That is heat.
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