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Old 10-14-2012, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default current WWE champion's schedule compared to 80s NWA champion's schedule?

If you compare the schedule of a NWA champion of the 80s (Flair) with the schedule of the present WWE champion (Punk), aren't their schedules much tougher or not?

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Default Re: current WWE champion's schedule compared to 80s NWA champion's schedule?

Flair wrestled an 30 minutes to an hour 6 nights a week. Punk averages a 15 minute tv match and two or three 10 minute house show matches. Besides, the effort he puts out at house shows is minimal compared to what Flair did in the 80s or any other wrestler of that time. Not trying to hate on Punk but guys back in the day worked there asses off way more than the stars of today. The only one who maybe compares is Cena because of all the media he does...but hes not wrestling as long as the guys did back in the day.
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Wrestling back then was tougher for sure - but I wonder how the travel time compares ...
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Flair wrestled an 30 minutes to an hour 6 nights a week. Punk averages a 15 minute tv match and two or three 10 minute house show matches. Besides, the effort he puts out at house shows is minimal compared to what Flair did in the 80s or any other wrestler of that time. Not trying to hate on Punk but guys back in the day worked there asses off way more than the stars of today. The only one who maybe compares is Cena because of all the media he does...but hes not wrestling as long as the guys did back in the day.
This is what I thought too. He didn't do as much media as current WWE champions do but the wrestling certainly was more and longer. I think that's way tougher than doing media.
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Not sure which is more time consuming, but if you watched Flair's WWE DVD release, according to his kids, Flair was home for Christmas and barely any other time during the year. I think his son David said that one year he saw his dad 10 days throughout the year. And there were times on the weekends where Flair wrestled twice a day.
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Not sure which is more time consuming, but if you watched Flair's WWE DVD release, according to his kids, Flair was home for Christmas and barely any other time during the year. I think his son David said that one year he saw his dad 10 days throughout the year. And there were times on the weekends where Flair wrestled twice a day.
That's really sad, really. And Flair goes on to talk about how great that life was. It seems almost selfish. Sure, they are essentially providing financially for their children, but they are having too much fun to even want to be home. Or at least how it seems from how they talk about it.
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Default Re: current WWE champion's schedule compared to 80s NWA champion's schedule?

I actually think Punk has it tougher.

Look back to the 80s, when drug abuse was running rampant in wrestling. The pain was able to me temporarily ignored, for the sake of making money and putting on high caliber matches. Also, the mainstream appearances were nowhere as big and often as now.

Now, when you look at a guy like Punk, he's had it pretty rough since his career started. From working multiple indy companies for little to no money, working down in developmental to getting called up to the big leagues and having 1 of the longest title reigns in years. On top of that, the media appearances and the mounting injuries, especially since Punk is "straight edge". He's pretty much had to toughen the pain out, which likely will cut his career short. He works house shows, often having 1 of the better performances of the night and is constantly on the road, as he's pretty much a bachelor and has no wife & kids. He's pretty much devoted to the business.

Also, I feel Cena has had it worst of all, mainly because he's had a grueling schedule for nearly a decade and has only been sidelined 3 times in his career, both very brief. And even then, he still made public appearances.

So, based on the intense travel and media appearances and the likelihood of less drug abuse, I feel the champions of today have a rougher schedule.
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Default Re: current WWE champion's schedule compared to 80s NWA champion's schedule?

If we were comparing today's WWE schedule to the schedule of WWF 80s-mid 90s ("Killer Calender" as Bret Hart said wrestlers referred to it back then), it would be the WWF of that era. Now, that was a brutal schedule.
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Default Re: current WWE champion's schedule compared to 80s NWA champion's schedule?

I'm not sure how many shows per year the NWA had in the 80's. But judging by what Flair said on his DVD, being home for 10 days per year, the NWA schedule was more rough.
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Default Re: current WWE champion's schedule compared to 80s NWA champion's schedule?

Good points made by all. To me the traveling road show that is the WWE makes it a little easier on the champion. There is a set schedule, they have nicer travel arrangements, the WWE has "people" to book everything for the talent. The "champion" goes with the entire entourage. The WWE is also more strategic with their travel. They spend days in the same area. If Raw is in Nashville, Smackdown will be in Memphis, then house shows will be on the way to the next RAW or Pay Per View location. The champion today is also the same character all the time, or only involoved in one story line at a time. Plus Punk is not expected to always be in the main event, sure most of the time he is but in todays culture he is not expected to have a 30-60 minute battle every night.

In the 80's Flair or whoever held the title, had to book their own travel unless they had a manager, which Flair did have at times. But he was still flying all over the globe defending his belt in the different territories. He would be in Dallas one day and Tampa the next, the next day Chicago. Not to mention the trips to Japan. He or Dillon were booking flight constantly, or trying to arranage rental vehicles. He was also switching back and forth from heel to face much of the time depending on where he was. He was constantly having to dive into a new story. In Dallas he was the heel, in Charlotte he might have been the face. If it was not switching from heel to face it was having to know what a particular area of the world expected. Was he fighting a local hero or local heel, and how did he as champion need to look to get heat from this particular set of fans? Did the area expect him to brawl or be technical? Flair was wrestling every night, and the matches were always main events. Also he was expected to wrestle long matches every night. Back then fans did not want a five minute spot fest, with a week finish. They expected 30-60 minute matches that made the champ look like a champ win or lose.

You also have to consider that it is just plain easier to travel now with the advances in travel comfort. Even considering 911.

I do think it is hard either way but the 80's presented challenges Punk just does not have to deal with.
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