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**Duke Silver** · 10-08-2012, 11:20 AM

He was absolutely a star, but I think that he was also quite fortunate. Had he moved over to the WWE when they bought out WCW I think that his hype would've died down a lot sooner than 2004. Goldberg was 75% gimmick, and that's never going to last. Substance and versatility are the two key ingredients to longevity in wrestling. Goldberg had neither.

Dusty Roids · 10-08-2012, 11:52 AM

He along with Scott Hall and DDP were my favorites in WCW.

Goldberg was a prominent star in the Monday Night Wars. That says enough imo.

TomasThunder619 · 10-08-2012, 12:22 PM

Honestly, if not that streak, Goldberg wouldn't be such big.

dddsssccc · 10-08-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke Droese

He was absolutely a star, but I think that he was also quite fortunate. Had he moved over to the WWE when they bought out WCW I think that his hype would've died down a lot sooner than 2004. Goldberg was 75% gimmick, and that's never going to last. Substance and versatility are the two key ingredients to longevity in wrestling. Goldberg had neither.

I agree to a point. He would have gotten exposed over time for not being able to cut promos and not being all that great as a worker.

I do think he would have been huge in the invasion angle though. He's exactly what that angle was missing. He was a top star synonymous with the rival WCW brand and could have played a great monster heel with someone like Heyman or another alliance member being his mouthpiece.

Thekweewee · 10-08-2012, 01:12 PM

Goldberg was a star. He was very limited in the ring but was incredibly agile for a big man and his character and body language made him convincing. He didn't even have to say a word and yet could put over such a domineering presence.

He had the perfect entrance, the perfect finisher and he produced moments that went beyond spectacular. Goldberg had intensity, he had the character to make his streak believable and WCW used this to perfection by hiding his weaknesses with his strengths.

He was limited in the ring, so they used his character to put over a domination streak. He was poor on the mic, so he was made into a all do no talk guy.

WCW's demise was always going to be the beginning of the end for him, Vince just didn't know how to use him. He was never any good on the mic and it showed.

It's ultimately the moments he produced in the ring that I'll always remember. Yes he was very limited but what he COULD do was so spectacular - THAT spear he did on Christian, spearing the Kwee Wee in mid-air, jack-hammering the Giant/Big Show.

**Berkajr** · 10-08-2012, 01:47 PM

He was nothing compared to the awesome likes of Christopher Daniels Low Key and Samoa Joe, I never got why he was so damn successful why WWE decided to bring in them, its just b*llsh*t backstabbing politics.

Goldberg could never do top rope hurricanranas, planchas and never knew how to chain wrestle properly. Did he really think those three minute squasehes was going to get him over. never had any love for the business, he just saw it as something he could make money to support his family, and never gave anything back compared to these guys.

IMO just too much hype, backstage politics for a talentless muscle head.

**Silent KEEL** · 10-08-2012, 01:51 PM

He was a star. I really do not understand how people can even argue that. He was highly popular with the fans and highly successful in his career. He may not have been the best in the ring, but people wanted to see him. If Goldberg wasn't a star because he wasn't talented enough, how can anybody say that Hogan was a star?

He was WCWs BEST homegrown talent.

**TripleG** · 10-08-2012, 01:55 PM

He was well protected and booked and became a star because of that.

Cliffy Byro · 10-08-2012, 02:48 PM

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Hulk Hogan is a man who can not wrestle, can barely move properly, was balding and Vince managed to convince the entire planet that Hulk Hogan was the best wrestler on earth

The Ultimate Warrior was even less talented in wrestling, was insane, could get gassed quickly in a match due to steroids, and Vince convinced the planet that Warrior was a some sort of god

Bret Hart is duller than dishwater. Vince convinced everyone that Bret was a worthy heir to the role of WWF figurehead and WWF champion and he can beat Yokozuna

Rey Mysterio is a midget. Vince convinced everyone that Rey Mysterio is a world fucking HEAVYWEIGHT champion

Goldberg was an egomanic shit wrestler who got his ass kicked by chris Jericho and he could barely talk and didnt understand anything about the business of wrestling. He was turned into one of the best on earth

Then you get to guys like Austin who just had a superb work ethic but overall was a pretty normal dull guy. Undertaker was huge but otherwise not that noteworthy. Until Vince figured out to bring out their best qualities.

Thats the magic of wrestling. Focus on the positives, hide the negatives to make these averages joes look like perfect supergods.

I mean if you think about it, Wrestlemania 3 was just a fake fight between a guy loaded up on steroids, and a guy who cant move, has a serious thyroid problem and wore a backbrace. And it wasnt even a very good match. But by making them look larger than life and focusing on the spectacle, you made people believe this was the match of the century. When in reality it looked like two guys fighting in slow motion

Thats the nature of the business. Promotion. The same applies in boxing and MMA but moreso in wrestling as it isnt built as much on talent as it is on marketability and popularity

Learn to think before you post newbie

1. Hogan could work
2. Jericho never kicked anybodies ass.

TheGreatBanana · 10-08-2012, 06:55 PM

Anyone who says Goldberg wasn't a star is simply deluded.

He was a megastar and a household name on the calibre of The Rock and Steve Austin, managing to go toe to toe against Austin. What he did can best be described as a phenomenom, something we never before witnessed and because of that he was self picked by Hogan to win the belt on live TV, not many people can boost about winning over Hogan.

He was the Ultimate Warrior to Rocks Savage and Austin's Hogan.